(Suggestion) EPR "No RPing" Rule Removal

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  1. Twilight Spark

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    I have wondered this for a long time. Now, before any mods blow this out of the water, I do understand that there is a RP chat. But--I have heard that many people do not like it and have problems with it. For instance, I have tried to go on the "temporary" one (I am not even sure EP has a specific RP chat anymore), and it blocked me from entering every time. I feel that some mods on EPR has taken the "no RPing on EPR" rule too far. In fact, there does not even look like that there is a RP chat anymore. If that is the case, then why not let RPing on EPR?

    I remember when I first came to EPR (Brony Day or whatever) and RPing was allowed. RPing on EPR was the best thing ever--I remember how they were and how much fun they were. Why not allow it? Why have it against the rules when it hurts nothing? I just--do not get why keep it chained by a rule when it is fun and enjoyable. If there is a "good" reason to why it is not allowed, then please, a mod, elaborate. I cannot find a good reason to why the rule is there. Hell, for all I know, the rule has been taken down--I am not on EP much anymore. That said, I am not doing this just for my benefit, I think many would greatly appreciate the rule taken down. I would come to EPR much MUCH more often if said rule is taken down.
     
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    RPing can be taken as spam when there are people in the chat who DON'T want to RP. The reason we had an RP chat was so that RPs wouldn't cut into other pony's conversation. If we allowed RP in the chat, it would become really difficult for anyone to say anything. Not to mention if multiple RPs started up.
    Also, RPing wasn't allowed back in brony day.

    We don't have an RP chat right now. We had one and ponies did use and enjoy it, but it got taken down for reasons I would rather not go into. Even with it down for now, RPing in the main stream chat would be a bad idea. Sure some ponies would like it, but again, it would end up as spam.
     
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    It's a public chat to accompany a radio, needlesz to say this means people will likely talk about music, make requests or 'chill out' - RPing in the chat is a nuisance to those who don't rp (the vast majority), it clogs up the chat and makes it hard for those users not wishing to rp to a follow conversation or for DJs to see requests. Believe me it is in place for good reason, still I can't and won't give you an answer to whether it could be abolished or not, it's not my place to say.



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  4. Luprony

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    This caught my interest. Could you provide an example please? As far as I can see, surely the furthest a mod can take this rule is by not allowing it, which is essentially what the rule is.
     
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    I understood the no RP'ing rule for the EPR, even though I quit going to it on a basis. When I originally was on the EPR months back, there was quite a lot of RP'ing and I was so-called "annoyed" back then, not to mention DJ's could hardly see any requests or any questions being asked to them.

    As for the RP Chat, it's down unfortunately(?) You could always RP in the RP sub-forum on the forums, or find a different chat to RP in such as xat, or any type of chat such as Skype.
     
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    Hard RP was a problem no doubt, but l see no problem with light RPing. Generally noone complained about it before, it adds fun to the chat, and doesn't generally get in the way too much. Besides, the majority of the chat itself is just used to chat casually. It's not like some business thing where everyone needs to be excessively serious, which after the RP rule was implemented, that seems to be the way mods treat it. It's no fun not being able to just goof around, as long as it's not abused and noone has a problem with it. I initially joined the site because of the light-hearted chat, and the rule's been a detriment to that ever since.
     
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  7. Twilight Spark

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    I would rather not point out anyone. I can think of at least two, though.

    Now--what I mean is, light RP--not full blown RPs. Light RP is fun and fine in my opinion. I just do not get why it is not allowed (light RP I mean). If me saying this is "bothersome," then I will stop.
     
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    I dissaprove.

    Even light RP's can get out of hand. I go to the radio the chat and have a couple of laughs; people who try to RP tend to block out requests and conversations.
     
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    You really should. If you're unhappy with how the site is being run, then who else but the moderators and administrators should you go to?

    I think the problem is what consitutes as light RP varies between different people. You have to respect, we're trying to please a lot of people, and as we all know you can't go in everyone's favour.

    We uphold this rule because we all share the EPR chat. There are several users in there who don't want to RP, or be around it. Saying it 'doesn't harm anyone' is a rather redundant cause. Linking porn doesn't harm anyone, spam doesn't harm anyone, breaking the rules doesn't harm anyone. We're trying to making this an enjoyable environment for as many people as possible.

    EPR isn't a role playing chat. There are roleplaying chats out there, but this isn't one of them. If RP was allowed, where could the non RPers who want to listen to the radio go? The chat on EPR is used for chatting among friends, not RP. Those who wish to RP can go to an IRC that allows or supports it. Should those chats not be of quality, that has nothing to do with us, and is up to those who host it to sort out.

    The quality of other chats doesn't influence EPR.

    Also, everything outside of RPing does not constitute as 'boring and serious'. It's just not roleplaing.
     
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    l honestly don't recall ever seeing people complain about RPing before unless it got excessive, in which case it wasn't even considered light RPing anymore. Spamming and posting porn is quite different because it's uncontrollably annoying, RPing is controllable by the poster, porn is porn, spam is spam, RP can often be used to simply elaborate a point in a non-annoying way, can be entertaining, and no doubt has other uses. Who does spam entertain? Pornography has ethical issues all over it.
     
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    I just use steam chat or Skype to talk to others on the same RP, mainly because both are free to download and they're very quick
     
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    Which is what we clamp down on. Excessive and/or continued RP. I'm not quite sure what it is that you are saying should be allowed, but isn't.
     
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    Some mods seem to have 0 tolerance for anything even resembling roleplaying because of how loosely the rule's stated, which the rule implies there's absolutely none allowed, that's what l have a problem with. The fact that even 1 line of RP is going to get you warned, It's not just excessive or continuous RPing, it's any RPing at all.
     
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    I've seen things like this happen before:
    Derp: Hi guys!
    Herp: Hi, derp! *Glomps.*
    Derp: Hows it going, Herp? *hugs with wings*

    Which I normally would have no problem with. But about 80% of the time, it turns into this.

    Flerp: Hi Derp and herp! *Jumps into the hug*
    Derp: *Hugs both ponies before gesturing to the rest of the chat for a group hug*
    Plerp: *Hovers above the group hug, waiting for the best moment to join*

    Things like that is the reason why we cant have ANY RPing. And if the rule is slackened, more people would start in the stream.
     
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    Again, I think it's best if you address who these mods are, be it me, Fluttershy or one of the DJs. We can at least clarify any potential misinterperatations of what light RP means that way.

    It's essential to remember that we are not in any way, shape or form an RP chat. We're just a radio chat, a free one at that. I've not personally seen any mods snap at single lines of light RP. I have seen some step in to what potentially could have turned in to RP, but that's trying to prevent breaking of the rules rather than warning someone for actually breaking them.
     
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    No. I don't support any kind of RP. Seriously, i am one of the persons who does not really like seeing someone "Do" an action. This is why the RP rule is there: There are people who can't really tolerate it. Also, I guess the RP chat (Which was there) will be brought back in a near (hopefully) future, so i guess all i can say is that there is no reason to allow RP-ing in the radio. It's a radio chat, after all, right?
     
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    There are several sites out there dedicated to MLP roleplaying with active forums and chats, we're very big believers in a communal network, we can't and don't wish to provide you with Everything, much like EQD doesn't have a radio (yet) - We don't feature Brony news, it's pretty much the same with Roleplay, we give what we can to those who ask but the point is we're not, never have been and probably never will be a roleplay heavy site. We can speak to Derpy about a new roleplay chat but I highly doubt we'll be allowing RP chat in the stream again, thanks for expressing your concerns though, at least now we can look into alternative solutions :)
     
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    This doesn't seem much less manageable than what currently goes on. That'd be the point of having rules and mods, to keep the members in line. Besides, I don't see why the chat has to have such strict rules. As long as someone doesn't have any complaints about it, what's the problem? If they do, then they just have to voice their issues.

    Scyithe for the most part seems rather strict about it, if that helps. But as I said, it's not really their fault. The rule clearly states any roleplaying, mentions there are no exceptions, and even harshly highlights the word 'forbidden'.
     
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    People do complain about it. Jaret being a prime example.
     
  20. Grey Knightmare

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    People don't complain about it because we don't allow it. If we removed the rule we'd appease you guys and get a load of others opening threads about why the no rp in the chat rule should be reinstated.

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