But it's the government, I doubt that they care about online signatures. If they cared, this thing wouldn't even exist.
I based my post off of what I've read on the article in the OP, and some others. 39 countries including the US and UK have agreed on this treaty. It is trash and it deserve an early grave. Currently there are 5 EU countries that have not signed: Germany, the Netherlands, Estonia, Cyprus and Slovakia. Here's to hoping that Parliament will vote against ACTA. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/network...s-acta-as-activists-urge-resistance-40094914/ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2141661/uk-signs-acta-rest-europe http://politicsuk-news.blogspot.com/2012/01/uk-signs-acta-as-activists-urge.html
I honestly do not want to know what will happen to the world if ACTA is passed. Besides huge riots and global protests. If it is passed the world will plummet in my opinion. I wish there was something more we could do...any ideas? besides anonymous I can't think of anything. EDIT: If only there was a way to make a second internet...one that the congress cannot take away. And as far as food and medicine goes. If lives are on the line then I am willing to risk mine to deliver illegal medicine and food to starving families. I'm not trying to be negative here but I have to some extent plan ahead just in case.
Anonymous is a joke. They're a bunch of idiots and trolls who do more harm than good. The right thing to do is for (people in the US) to contact your local representatives and get them to oppose ACTA. For those in the UK contact parliamentary offices, departments, and your local MP's with your concerns. We have the right to make our opinions heard. Anonymous is not how you get your government on your side. In the end, our governments will serve the people's concerns, but if we don't make our concerns heard, they won't oppose ACTA.
Legal framework ACTA would ostensibly establish a new international legal framework that countries can join on a voluntary basis[2] and would create its own governing body outside existing international institutions such as the World Trade Organization (WTO), the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) or the United Nations.[1][3] With regards to the reason for not pursuing ACTA through the G8, WTO, WIPO or other formal existing structures the European Commission explains that a free-standing agreement provides the most flexibility "to pursue this project among interested countries", while stating that "the membership and priorities of those organizations (G8, WTO, and WIPO) simply are not the most conducive to this kind of path breaking project."[1] The draft treaty's title suggests that the agreement only covers infringement of patents, that is counterfeit physical goods such as medicines, however the draft treaty also covers infringement of copyright in the context of "Internet distribution and information technology".[4] An official Summary of Key Elements Under Discussion published November 2009 states that "ACTA aims to build on existing international rules in the area of intellectual property, in particular on the TRIPS Agreement, and is intended to address a number of enforcement issues where participants have identified that an international legal framework does not exist or needs to be strengthened."[15] According to the European Commission, the goal of ACTA is to establish an international framework that improves the enforcement of existing intellectual property right laws. The Commission states that ACTA is to create improved international standards for actions against large-scale infringements of intellectual property. To this end ACTA will have three primary components: "international cooperation"; "enforcement practices"; and "legal framework for enforcement of intellectual property rights". The "ultimate objective" of ACTA is that large emerging economies, "where intellectual property rights enforcement could be improved, such as China, Russia or Brazil, will sign up to the global pact".[1] The 2008 Special 301 Report published by the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) states that "ACTA will bring together countries that recognize the critical importance of strong IPR (Intellectual Property Rights) enforcement for a prosperous economy. The ACTA is envisioned as a leadership effort among countries that will raise the international standard for IPR enforcement to address today’s challenges of counterfeiting and piracy. ACTA will build upon the Administration’s prior bilateral and regional cooperation successes."[36] Articles 5 and 6 of the treaty provide creation of an "ACTA committee" which may make subsequent amendments to the agreement, subject to the approval of the parties. Public review or judicial review will not be needed to create amendments. Industry representatives may have consultatory input to amendments.
You can't go by Wikipedia. Yes, ACTA is a trade agreement, but it's dark destructive truth is hidden behind all the gobbledygook bull*squee!* terminology they use to write these things. The original idea of ACTA is to protect intellectual property, but no where within ACTA does it define what "Intellectual Property" it refers to. It is "supposed" to protect artists, journalists, original content creators and "defeat" counterfeiting, but it literally would do the exact opposite. Any form of sharing would be considered "counterfeit" simply due to the fact that you are copying and sharing it, REGARDLESS of copyright. So that indie band mp3 you liked, and posted on your blog is now an illegal act and you can be criminalized. Same goes with basic sharing of information, such as copy-pasting from a news article. That's only "counterfeiting" on the internet. As a result of eliminating counterfeiting; generic drugs, and independent farming will be destroyed as well. Everything will need to be patented and branded, thus making it more difficult for people to get the medicine and food they need to survive. I love the idea of generic drugs, but think of those who actually need them to live. There are many cases where a big-label drug has bad side-effects, or maybe that person is allergic to an ingredient. That generic alternative that is safer will be made unavailable. Independent farmers will be unable to grow crops for low prices so unfortunate countries can have food. Once again, this is an idea to promote big business and the money they don't actually need, at the expense of suffering for everyone else.
yes i know i only did that as a follow up for this, i see allot of people talking about stopping SOPPA, PIPPA, and now this ACTA, and out of all of these conversations and i mean ALL i never once see ANYONE talk about the one thing that's most important in these conversations which is just how these bills came to be in the first place, people need to realize that the governments of all country's didn't give a flank about people sharing information or songs as long as they didn't make money but there's been more people jailbreaking into there ipods to get free apps and songs, there's also the hack that nearly destroyed the playstation franchise, and lets also not forget the S*it load of military goverment secrets that got leaked to the internet allowing america and be fined for warcrimes (and dont be make war not love about this cause war is never pretty no matter what its for
It's not the government coming up with these ideas out of the blue, its the whiny brat media corporation lobbying for YEARS and YEARS crying and complaining "waah our marketing tactic is 30 years old, digital sharing is baaad." If that's all the government hears whining in their ear, that is what they will do. As citizens we need to show that the digital age and digital sharing is the new way for distributing content, and that the media companies need to grow up and accept this fact. DVD's, records, and physical copies of media as your 'primary' distribution is terrible marketing in today's digital age, and they don't seem to understand that.
Yes but what you said strayed from what i said i asked (how it was allowed to be made) not who's idea it was sure it may have a been a idea for greed but lets not forget it is us that did the things that allowed them to go forward on this. and no im not for acta pipa or sopa im for philosophy and philosophy dosn't ask why in these matters it ask how
I would disagree. Who exactly created the tools for getting copyrighted content so easily? Who promoted the downloading of copyrighted mp3's. Disney, CBS, etc.
You are right, I'm late to this talk so forgive anything I say that may be out of place. Of course it is the greedy 1% of the world that want more money, that part is easy to figure out. As far as who let it get made, I blame the government, they just want to own us. The world is now full of masters, we are their pets for them to do as they see fit.
who was it the steals money from apple cause they jailbreak there ipods and iphones (consumers) who leaked government secrets to the internet (a wannabe Wikipedia) and just who was it that got tired of government secrets being leaked out and money being stolen? take a guess, point is we the people did a bunch of reckless stuff just for the sins of greed and envy and to just spite our own country that now there striking back. its not a smack to the rest anymore there bringing a paddle
Systems are naturally prone to fail and be exploited. Solve the issues that are presented before you, not whine and cry about it. Just because a select few enjoy exploiting everything available to them doesn't make it so that everyone needs to be punished. Think of a class that gets punished because one student ruins it for everyone else.
yes but the point i make is that people have taking things to the extreme it doesn't matter how small the numbers are the acts themselves are still extreme enough to change the way a world dose things, this is not a bill that effects just the U.S this is a Treaty brought up by Japan and then set out to Poland then the rest of the U.K and so on till it got to us the simple fact is that there taking it to the extreme aswell and now neither side is wanting a middle ground anymore
Which is the exact reason I oppose all of this. Big business needs to learn to understand its consumers before asking for destructive government decisions like these. I agree that there are many who exploit devices and systems, it's a fact. But I feel that majority rule is an important factor with these sort of things, and I feel that with enough opposition from all countries, ACTA will fall. Will this change the minds of corporations? Will corporations learn from their mistakes and actually solve their own problems? Hell no, but hopefully it will be another battle won by us.
i will say that ACTA is going to far but i cant say that i fully dissaprove of it the general concept of it is good but people are only pointing out the bad, this bill could work if a middle ground was made
I agree, a middle ground needs to be met. Personally I dislike piracy, only in the sense of if it is copyright material. I like to support companies I like, but I should have the right to free access to things that I don't want to pay for. For example: streaming a decent movie. I shouldn't be forced to buy something that I may not end up watching ever again. Perfect example is the entire MLP fanbase. I honestly believe that if we had to pay for watching MLP, none of us would have given the show a try, because we were all skeptical at one point, and who wants to pay for something they are skeptical of? Nobody. Now that we love the show after having free access at YouTube, we shell out cash for merchandise and hopefully DVD releases. That is the platform that more companies should start using. But if SOPA/PIPA, or ACTA pass, free access to media and information will be impossible. I do not agree with blocking out YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. That is not the best way to combat piracy.
There is a song called police the nation by the planet smashers, It makes me think of this whole ACTA thing. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
