Derpy Hooves

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  1. SR20DETDOG

    SR20DETDOG Living an unreal reality
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    What I don't understand is why she's being labelled as mentally challenged in the first place. Can't she just simply be a stupid** pony similar to Homer Simpson? I haven't heard people arguing over him being insulting to the mentally challenged, he's simply seen as an idiot, and he's 10 times worse than Derpy.

    **Now that I think about she didn't really do anything stupid anyway, she was just very clumsy.
    Anyway, it's just political correctness gone mad if you ask me :sigh:

    On a lighter note I really like her character, she's cute and funny, just as I had imagined her. Hopefully we'll see more of her soon :)
     
  2. Flutterbee

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    Yes I was serious. The point here was to try to see things in a different light. Apparently it didn't work for you. It is correct to that nobody said that Derpy was mentally handicap. Nowhere does it say that Derpy is meant to be an insult to others. In your massive crusade to protect the handicap, you do more harm than good. You insult them when your trying to protect them. Maybe if you got to know a few of them instead of appointing yourself their guardian you might change your attitude about it. Regardless you are insulting to the fandom, insulting to My Little Pony, insulting to the talent behind the show, insulting to Derpy, and insulting to mentally handicap (which is the correct term, retarded is the bad term). I believe in restoring freedom of speech and putting an end to extreme censorship. If people like you have your way then nobody is allowed to say anything, nobody is allowed to have a sense of humor, and we all have to go around never being able to say anything to anyone, never wearing anything on our shirts, and end up becoming mindless zombies all to protect someone from possibly being offended. Yet when that happens everyone becomes offended. Never the less I will tolerate your views as long as your not trying to force those views on others. Yet anyone that sent hate mail to Hasbro trying to ban Derpy has in fact tried to force their personal views on others and committed a crime against humanity in the process. That I cannot tolerate.

    "neulogically atypical people" Really? Your going to use a term like that and then criticize me for using the term "mentally handicap". Wow, your mind is very twisted. Your way more insulting toward the mentally handicap than I am. Take a good look at yourself before you criticize me or Hasbro. The more I think about this, the more disgusted I am with your behavior Residual Chaos. You really just make me sick now. I didn't mean for this to turn into a flame against someone but this is very disturbing to me.
     
  3. elementofchaos7

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    "Derp" isn't inherently an offensive word. Yes, it came from South Park (well, the creators of South Park--it appeared in a movie they made, and it was simply popularized due to South Park), but it's meaning was completely innocent--it's a silly word you're meant to say when you make an innocent mistake--until the internet started using it to make fun of people with walleyes. So yes, her name being Derpy is unfortunate due to the fact she's often walleyed, but at least do the research first. Don't put the blame on the creators of South Park for something that isn't really their fault.

    I pretty much agree with the rest, although I don't think she's actually mentally handicapped. She seems more of a daydreamer to me, who's very clumsy...reminds me of me, to be honest. That's probably why I like her as a character.
     
  4. Prince Darkmoon

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    Am I the only one who think Derpy may just have bad eyesight? That alone would explain her clumsiness.

    And don't worry bronies, Derpy is not going anywhere, Hasbro really like us.
    http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/important-message-to-community-from.html

    That being said, they should put Derpy in a more positive light next time to clear up misconceptions.

    We don't look down on Derpy, we love her for who she is.
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  5. ResidualChaos

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    I'm twisted for using the terminology that is preferred by the community? I don't even know how to respond to that. I'm disturbing because I find the character inappropriate for the setting? I think the neurologically atypical should be empowered instead of picked on and that's bad? Really? Are you just completely misconstruing my argument? I think that you have to be, because there is nothing disgusting about what I'm saying... I am neurologically atypical myself... does it make a difference if I tell you that? It shouldn't.
     
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    Thats a little harsh. Can we all just get along and tone it down a little bit and not take things so personally. This is not the MLP way. Like Derpy or not, its a character on a tv show. Just remember we need to respect everyones opinion even if we dont agree with it. If it offends you that bad scroll past it.

    Peace out.
     
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    This thread is now officially a flame war, with both sides refusing to consider for even a moment that opinions other than their own exist. Yes, 'dumb' characters are a mainstay of comedic cartoons, child-oriented or otherwise. Yes, Ditzy is portrayed in a manner that could be interpreted in an unintended way.

    Now, PLEASE stop the flankhurt. This is getting nowhere.

    So, how about making me a muffin?
     
  8. Emerpus

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    Political correctness rears it's ugly head once again.
     
  9. Prince Darkmoon

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    Well, it does one difference, it gives your complaints a certain legitimacy they would not have if you were just putting words in the mouths of neurologically atypical people. If you find it personally offensive that makes you different from the political correctness crusaders.

    I can understand some of your complaints, but tell me, what specifically do you find offensive about this scene? How do you come to the conclusion that Derpy is neurologically atypical in the first place?
    [video=youtube;nCZGrDM9Ecc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZGrDM9Ecc[/video]
    I just see a rather overenthusiastic silly pony, not really that different from Pinkie Pie aside from her clumsiness. If Derpy is neurologically atypical so is Pinkie Pie.
    Granted that the voice is not perfect but can be explained if you know the voice actress believed Derpy was a colt at the time of the recording.

    I still argue that the handicap Derpy has is not mental, she has an eye condition called Strabismus, also called "Derpy eye", which is the origin of Derpy's name.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabismus
    If anything "Derpy" is a slur for people with a lazy eye, not neurologically atypical people.
     
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    Well i can agree to disagree as long as nobodys personal preference is being forced on me. I will not force them on others. If you prefer to use some crazy term neurowhatever then go right ahead. I really don't care about the politically correct flavor of the week. I do know that it isn't the more socially acceptable term because it isn't what we use in the real world. Have you ever thought to ask a mentally handicaped person which term she likes better? You say you are a neurowhatever, I really don't care. To me your just a person with different views than mine. There is one thing that is for sure though, use whatever terms you want, but Derpy is Derpy, not Ditsy. If you don't like it, too bad.
     
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    I'm autistic i can tell the difference between disabled,stupid and clumsy.i don't find her the LEAST bit offensive.

    She strikes me as a little slow with a lot of clumsy,Or maybe shes just stupid.

    Or she just looks and acts stupid because of her eyesight, but is actually a genius.
     
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    Because demanding that we don't force something on you and then forcing it upon us is the best way to be taken seriously.
     
  13. Flutterbee

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    The difference there is that her name really is Derpy. Wanting to call her something different don't change that fact. Derpy being offensive is an opinion, and only a minority of people have that opinion. That is a belief that should not be forced on someone. It is like saying that Buddhism is the only correct religion, that is only opinion or belief and not a fact. If it is raining outside that is fact and not up for debate, calling it sunshine doesn't change the fact that it is raining.
     
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    still, personally, I don't mind anyone calling Derpy, Ditzy. It's same as most of fans call Lyra, well, Lyra, but Heartstrings is actually official (named by Hasbro).
    Personally, I call Derpy Derpy, and Lyra both (Lyra Heartstrings (I'm one of fans that took Heartstrings as Lyra's last name)).
    So, if someone wants to call Derpy Ditzy, she/he should be able to. we're all know what pony she/he is referring to.
    Love and tolerate all opinions
     
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    Saying that it IS raining is a fact.
    Saying that it WAS raining is not. History is malleable, and is only what people remember it as. Thus, History is a widespread opinion.

    Derby/Ditzy being called (note the past tense) is now history, and thus, an opinion.

    Again, credibility is dropping. I suggest this argument follow.
     
  16. Flutterbee

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    I didn't know that Lyra and Heartstrings were the same pony. I like how you combined them together and call her Lyra Heartstrings. I think that is how I will see it now too. She is my favorite background pony that has never had a speaking role now that Derpy has
     
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    [video=youtube;hhLUFdNReIw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhLUFdNReIw[/video]
    Found this fandub, is this in any way better?

    I think Derpy and Ditzy are both the name of the pony. Think about it, Ditzy is probably her real name while Derpy is a nickname becaue of her clumsiness. This nickname is not ill meant though as it was Derpy herself who came up with it.
     
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    I liked the first voice in that video but not the 2nd. Anyway Ditzy is far more insulting than Derpy also. Yet another reason for those arguments for changing her name from Derpy to Ditzy seem bogus to me. Of course that is my opinion.
     
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    Because appending that it is your opinion makes blatantly saying everyone but you is wrong suddenly alright.

    If you know it's "just your opinion", then why comment if not to try to get others to agree, especially if you know at least some do not. Not to mention that Derpy is likely a nickname similar to Twi', as has been used in the show. If only because all pony names are two words, and it has been mentioned before as Ditzy Doo.

    And yes, I am trying to sway an opinion.
     
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    In the only episode where her name was given, it was given as Derpy. I mentioned that it was my opinion because it is and it seems like some of you that have the hatred of Derpy and want to censor her and hide mentally handicapped people from society in some sorta twisted crusade don't know the difference between opinions and facts. You see to think that even if your opinion is in the minority that everyone has to conform to your wishes. Well no we don't. So do not try to sway my opinion. It is only making me think less of you.
     

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