Fellow bronies you have to think to yourself. Do you really want to be a fandom that is seen as a sort of media freak show with men collecting dolls for little girls and watching a show for little girls? Or do you want to be a media-giant that has contributed to modern culture with it's music, fiction and art? We all know of the extent of our growth as a sub culture with our music beginning to grow into a genre, our fan fiction quality rivalling that of the greats (I dare say the writers of the show have got a run for their money) and our art on par with the best of them. we are even gaining ground on the video game circles. I present to you 1 word to put into consideration. Touhou. This is a fandom that we could become. A fandom respected by the media for its huge volumes of high quality fan material. But clearly they are missing something as their impact is no where near as epic as it should be. As such the cultural stagnation occurring with them could befall the brony fandom (if we ever reach that size). We are on a cross road right now where our actions now can affect us and even Hasbro itself. so putting all this in consideration what do you think us bronies should do? surely you can't just be content to watch things unfold. Surely you got some dreams to help make come true? We have a brotherhood going on, that can help us help ourselves. So why don't we start properly using it? One thing I notice with touhou fans is their pseudo rivalry with each other, they have this competitive streak that strives each other to do these hugely epic things. Clustering into small cliques within the fandom to do their collaborations. Bronies spout unity, but I'm not quite seeing any real difference between both fandoms, except the idealism spoken but not practiced. thats all i gotta say.
Any news station will easily attack the bad of anything. Even straightedge is looked as a gang in arizona( I think, might be another state) Straight edge has bad people in it, the people that attack non straight edge people because they don't follow it. Bronies have the same thing. Of course people are gonna look at the toys and adult males collecting them. I simply don't care, what they see is but a fraction of bronies. You and I know what good we can do, so let them try to look at us in negative light. You mention touhou, I've barely seen anything from the fandom. I know nothing of it's fans or anything. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
touhou fans have done the following. created GAMES on par with the original game. make doujin versions of other popular games. like castlevania. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIEbaqOMB4 touhou artists have fandoms within the fandom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izG4SLrezEg fan animations and public competition and skits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GDD2yJbWk8 they made MUSIC based off the original ost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQqJDHzcHg&feature=fvst they made remixes off the ost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m-MjL3_63Y they made mashups and medleys with the ost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-x6R0mKzII heres the touhou equivalent of pony remixes-refered to as IOSYS (named after the sound file folder in the game) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFDWP5JwSM anything bronies have done. touhou has beaten them to it and done it better (because they are more evolved as a fandom) bronism is a child compared to touhou. but unlike touhou bronism has the advantage of foresight. looking at touhou is looking at the future. as such, bronies can surpass them. IF it is encouraged to.
Why does it seem people are trying to make bronies bigger then they are. I'm just gonna be me as a brony. I'm gonna draw fanart and continue to help thoses around if they ask for help. I don.t think bronies need to be turned into some gaint world force. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
if it has the potential, then why the hell not? whats the worse that can happen? you don't become a world changing force, just as you yourself intended.
Who says it has the potential. The worst that can happen, I dunno. Brony civil war *shrugs* I have my doubts that bronies can make enough noise to be a world force, plus with big business running the world, we have a super slim chance. Remember Hasbro owns ponies, Hasbro wants money. That's all they want. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
What better way to make money that with positive publicity? I would argue that most charities would prefer smaller donations from millions of people than large ones from a few. It's the domino effect. The more people hear about it, the more people check it out. If they don't like it at first, and we grow in notoriety, they might try a fan-fic or some music. As for the worst that could happen, what about the best? What difference can we make in the world? There is no doubt that we are an noticeable percentage of the population, and if we can be seen as something good, be it through artistic contribution, charity, or public service, people will follow. If I may quote the show without sounding incredibly cheesy, "Arguing is no way to go about it. What you need is organization."
Bronies donate to charity. Ballon party goes to chairty I think or for musicains to get to bronycon. I don't remember. The book my little sweetheart all went to chairty. Hasbro wants money, but bronies can make a difference. -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
I hate to sound like a pesimist, but there are plenty of talented people on the internet that no-one has heard of, not just bronies. If they haven't got the coverage they deserve, what are the chances that brony-talent will be discovered? All we can do, as bronies, is continuing to be awesome. Who knows, one day, we might be recognised as a fountain of awesomeness.
I can only agree with you Pixel. We are just a fun little community. We are not looking for trouble we just enjoy having fun with eachother. If Haterz hate then its Each to thier own. To turn Bronies from a fun loving cummunity into a world force in my oppinion is wrong.
Why strive to become a world force when we already ARE becoming one? We are, naturally, becoming more and more of a noticeably big thing in the world and so long as we continue to spread and be noticed, we're considered a world force. Trying to force the issue will only make it slow down or, worse, stop completely. My message to all Bronies out there is this: Keep up the good work, voice your opinions, make yourselves known to Hasbro (who, despite caring alot about money, DO care about the fandom as well), and don't be deterred by Hater crap. You are what you are and no one has the right to stop you from being yourselves.
I too have to agree with Pixel. Also comparing a show based off of a more mainstream toy line to a niche anime-esque indie product from Japan is abit falicial. Sure both have fan bases that like to make stuff. But a lot of fan bases do that. But the two are far far different to accurately compare, at least imo. Overall I say just enjoy the fanbase for what it is, a group of people who enjoy a quality all ages animation, despite the fact its related to a brand name that was previously well.....drek, lol.
I don't really care, if bronies become a world force, great. If they stay "underground", great. Either way, I'll continue to be Radaboy.
as we stand we are a freak show for the media to laugh at. I want bronism to gain some grounds as to what we really are. awesome people holding ideals that want to be heard and expressed epicly through our music, our fiction and our art. and we'd want nothing from it but respect. touhou and mlp comparison is used because of the similarities of their fandom's life cycle. and yes many fandoms create material but very few up to this scale and variety. the beginnings of touhou was nearly exactly like this stage of bronism. Only bronies have their current status due to sensationalism than the avid following of the doujin circles.
We've received respect from things as much as disdain or mockery. It's just a matter of viewpoint, opinion, upbringing, and all-around tolerance/intolerance.
Unfortunately, the media couldn't care less if they found out that we're so talented. The media just try to entertain, rather than inform. People prefer to mock rather than to appreciate. So your goal seems a little out-of-reach. Sadly, we don't live in a perfect world.
So the major thrust of this community, based entirely on the replies so far in the thread is, you don't want to be great? You guys are going to tell me, CeresBane and the world that, despite standing on the precipice of something greater than ourselves; Nah.mov? I can understand remaining small time, we don't have to become a media powerhouse, but what about using the skills we're honing here to expand? Why not take the concept of Brony and use it to crush male gender role stereotypes? Why not do a fan-animation as long as an episode? I mean, most of you are in the 13-21 range, you guys have -nothing but time-. Crimony, if this is all the ambition that can be mustered, maybe we deserve to stagnate?
Yes but when something becomes big it attract alot of attention. Too much attention.We should just stay like we are.Stagnation isnt necessarily a bad thing and progress isnt necessarily a good thing. Actually i dont know what im talking about..i should go to bed.
