Ponies, christianity, Pinkie Pie and love and tolerance

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  1. Halfhand

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    That's exactly what I'm saying. No ritual will make you right with God. None.

    If you would want to be forgiven you must first fully understand what you did wrong. Will a ritual tell you that? No. Only your conscience, which I believe is the knowledge of right and wrong that God inscribed upon everyone's heart. Some choose to ignore it. Some choose to embrace it. Ritual can serve both types causing the one to believe he's good because he danced the religious jig and the other to become a basket case beholden to ritual and a religious system to tell them if they're good or not.

    Jesus said He is the way, the TRUTH and the life. Truth is in the middle for a reason. Both the way and the life point toward the truth. Live you life truthfully, accepting everything about yourself, both the good and the bad and couple that with a knowledge of the creator and you have everything you need. You want to know God? Sit out in a thunderstorm. Run trough a meadow and watch all the life that surrounds you. Watch the sunset. You'll be more refreshed and feel more real than any number of hours sitting in a church.
     
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    If rep was still around, I'd give it to you for this outstanding post.
     
  3. Prince Darkmoon

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    Well..Duh, I know that, however overanalyzis is fun. Can't help thinking Jesus would approve of this show though:grin:.



    I never asked you to agree with me, I am fine with people having different opinions. I am not sure what I implied that you disagree with, but just remember that I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine.
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    It teaches the same morals he teaches.Im pretty sure he does.
     
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    A little off-topic, but this post made me think of this:

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    There's a big difference between being rebellious and being atheist. o_O The way that is worded implies that what you believe is a choice. Granted, it is choice in the sense that you aren't strung out to believe what your neighbor believes, but you don't just choose to believe something. If I like the lovey dovey feeling that Buddhism offers, that won't make me believe in it any more, and if I'm sitting up terrified of goblins at night, my not wanting to believe in them won't make me believe in goblins any less. There's also a big difference between not agreeing with Christianity and being atheist. Atheism is not the opposite of Christianity. Think about it.

    Edit: Unless you mean agnosticism. That would make slightly more sense. >>;
     
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    Atheism is the belief that there is no god of anykind. Right? I don't really know.

    I don't follow any religion, I don't care if others do. It's there choice, just don't force it on me. I don't believe that there is any god of anykind. I'm also not a fan of religion in politics.

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    [video=youtube;VFxN00yRvcI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFxN00yRvcI&feature=related[/video]

    Varg like churches as he likes his cornflakes...

    Crispy!

    no one will get that....
     
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    Church's Chicken pun, right?
     
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    I've thought the same thing a lot of times. I even heard some of my friends that are atheists talking about this one kid's mom who freaked out when she heard that they were atheists and wouldn't let them into her house. Seriously? That's so stupid. I was tempted to join in on the conversation when they started talking about how it was a good thing she hadn't had any Holy Water on hand. xD

    I as well.

    I doubt he would have a problem with it, yes.


    Well, mostly the thing about Luna representing Satan/Lucifer, and how the Devil will be redeemed. I really don't think that's possible, as if he was redeemed, he would merely go back to his evil ways, would he not? That is how Sin works, and he is the embodiment of Sin, the Father of Lies, etc.

     
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    Yes- I don't think I understand your point, or why my post was quoted. Could you explain to me? xP
     
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    The other idea with Luna is that she represent mankind who were seperated and later reunited with God.

    I am not going to say you are wrong, but I intend to at least offer Satan a chance of salvation, if he refuses that is his own loss. Also note that we probably do not believe in the same version of Satan. If you allow me to explain.

    Lucifer and Satan to me is alot like Luna and Nightmare Moon. Lucifer in my mind was once pure and kindhearted, but also extremly proud and above all loyal to his fellow angels, this was before the creation of mankind, who were put above the angels in the hierarchy of God. Lucifer saw this as an injustice to the angels who he thought of as superior beings to humans and were eventually overcome by jealousy and decided to trick mankind into losing their favor with God. Mankind fell, but God found out who was behind it and Lucifer and his angels were banished after a failed rebellion. Lucifer was stripped of his God given powers and sought the darkness to once again become strong. This was the moment Satan the Accuser was born, after a pact with the incarnation of evil, the Destroyer, the shadow-image of God, Lucifer became the vessel of sin, the primary creation of this dark Anti-God.


    The story surrounding this "Destroyer" is quite complicated. Before the creation of the world there was two great powers, the Creator and the Destroyer, beings of infinite power in a eternal struggle, one representing existence and the other nonexistence. This was untill the Creator vanquished the Destroyer in the moment the universe was created. The Destroyer was banished to outside of existence, bound in a eternal void that was Hell. Still, even from this place, it was able to influence and corrupt creation, beginning with the fall of Lucifer, now it's most powerful agent in this realm and the fall of God's chosen, mankind. The Destroyer want only one thing, to throw all of creation into the same void that imprison it, because who loses touch of the Creator belongs to the Destroyer.


    This might not be part of mainstream christianity, but rather my own explanation of the nature of evil. And the battle between the Creator God and Chaos before the dawn of time is a recurring trait of many mythologies.
     
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    Love that comic:grin:.

    I don't think it's wrong to worship Celestia, not anymore wrong than worshiping the virgin Mary at least. I usually pray to Rainbow Dash for rain and has been unusually favored up to this point, Dashie(and the other Mane6+Celestia+Luna+Derpy) enjoys the position of honorary saints in my religion actually, I don't think I should bother God with something so insignificant as rain.

    By the way, rains right now, praise Rainbow Dash:omg:.
     
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    I DO hope you're not serious.
     
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    What..Darkmoon?Are you ok?
     
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    Praying to ponies is a bit too far. I don't see anything wrong with it but... don't expect Celestia to come and save you when you need it most.
     
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    No entirely, I don't think praying to ponies accomplish anything actually. But I do feel a connection to them, similiar to what other christians have to Jesus. These ponies do act like a bridge to God for me. I feel they are a great example for people to follow and therefore are very similiar to the role of saints in catholicism. I do not think they have actual real power, but the thoughts of them does put me in a very good mood.

    Edit. Sunburn, thank you:grin:.
     
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    You really shouldn't react that way to his actions. I mean, c'mon guys. We watch ponies, and we complain about how people hate on us all the time. We must seem extremely weird to the rest of the world.

    So, even if what he's doing seems crazy to you, shouldn't you at least treat him kindly? And not as if he's some sort of whackjob? He has feelings too, you know, and he obviously trusts us enough to post that. >.>

    I am certainly not saying that I think he's right, but you guys really shouldn't be reacting that way.
     
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