People need to chill out, yes. Noone seems to pick on me. Not worth the effort, as they get no reaction As for D head bronies, they are not bronies, they are men who watch My Little Pony. People must learn the difference. Being a brony requires effort to am extent. You need to ride things through, not get angry. There is no reason to be angry over little things. Because in the end, anger is fear being bought out by people who are scared to show it.
That's not necessarily true. LOTS of people make a show of how much they care about the things gays do in private, and for various reasons. I've heard it said that only extremists think that, and while that can sometimes be true, it isn't the rule. My own grandparents, for example, are nice and peaceable people, but they have all kinds of problems with gay people. They only express these sentiments among friends and family, however, which is a completely different brand of bashing. I will say, for the purposes of this conversation between the two of us, that the user I responded to only openly bashed the Gay Pride Parade, but that alone was a problem for me. He did also say that gays weren't really a minority, which is a BS statement for obvious reasons, but I only concerned myself with the comment about the parade. Perhaps some of the more reasonable people do think in that way. If you have opposing views and people make fun of you, that's wrong. However, if you have opposing views, and one of those views is that gays should not, for example, be allowed to get married, then prepare to be called a "hater". In truth, that's really THE ONLY WAY you can have an opposing view. I would not call someone names just because we disagree about something as a general rule, but nobody who holds those opinions should be surprised. "I'm not a 'hater', I just don't think you should be allowed to do _____ because of who you are." That's what those people are essentially saying, and statements of that nature, while not stated in a hateful way (with insults and the like) are VERY hurtful to some people. I'm simply trying to stress that these people can be very hurt by those statements. I think you do bring up an interesting point. Just because (and I'm only using examples here) a Christian says something that offends a gay person does not make it okay for that gay person or anyone else to say something offensive back. Two wrongs do not make a right. It's never kind to call anyone a "hater." The other two things you said seemed fairly reasonable, but I feel I must stop you here. It has everything to do with their sexuality. That's what defines a person as being gay. If a gay person is mean to you, or even if a whole group of them are and they call you a "hater" as well as other names, you shouldn't say "I don't like gay people." You should say "I don't like mean people who call me a hater." The fact that anyone would pick on gay people as a group just because of some things a few of them said is wrong.
My own view is that no one should be denied their rights or persecuted because of their sexuality. I do not bargain on this point, I have no tolerance for discrimination. The reason of this is that if homophobes do get children who are gay, they will suffer horribly, that does not sound very christian to me, and this is why I support christians who challenge these corrupt ideals. I let Rainbow Dash tell the rest. (Too bad I can't find that comic where Rainbow talks about homosexuality, any help?) Rainbow supports the LGBT community, partly because she think the flag is cool, but mostly because she, like me, believe it is the right thing to to. She may not be gay, but she would still be supportive. Don't forget that, or Dash will get sad.
^^^^^^ I'll admit I've done it myself, but perhaps that was because I was in a homophobic unisex high school for 5 years. It sorta dug into my personality, then uni came and I'm not like that at all. I still feel so very guilty and sorry about it though. I did say such phrases, but I never had anything against gays or anything, I had a few gay friends and they were awesome! My friends still do it, and when they do it I try and do the right thing and stop them
I have no problem with LGBT, I don't think that we should judge someone by whom they love, but how they act. I've had a gay friend who was really cool, but if he was a massive jerk, I wouldn't have been friends with him as he would be a jerk, not because of his sexuality, And besides, those people who call themselves 'Christians' and hide and justify their hate by the Bible forgot one thing that Jesus, whose supposed to be their 'Lord and Savior' says not to judge someone, let him and the Father do the judging.
No worries, I do so occasionally as well, even though I know I shouldn't. Still, it does not always have negative meaning, for example, if one of my friends asks me "What is the most gay card in magic the gathering?", gay here means most powerful, with an undertone of broken/overpowered. It seem to have become one of these words that can mean whatever you want it to. But yeah, I agree with Dash, the expression is quite silly. Though, I have a feeling "that is so pegasus" would mean something is awesome. Edit. Snow, yes I agree. This is why, as a semi-christian, I plan to launch a spiritual crusade against intolerance. One day, I would love to speak as a priest at the pride parade in favor of the LGBT community, wearing a rainbow coloured robe (inspired by Dashie, what else?).
So my take from what i'm reading in this thread is that basically there is some sort of drive toward being more openly accepted in the homosexual community without biases or any prejudged mentality's towards each other. (Stereotypes) It seems like a just thing. I honestly have a few homosexual friends myself. Wouldn't trade em' for the world. There just as human as you and I. But just as a someone once told me "As long as there are two people left on the planet, someones gonna have it out for someone else" Its a true but sad fact. No one likes to feel they have been wronged or that there opinions are invalid due to what is judged to be politically and naturally correct. while some may grow in society based on wholesome facts of the world such as reproduction and how it is done. For example Male #1 May have been raised on the "Bible" version of life and feel that because it was not written it should not be. Well there are a few contradictions there. For one the world is nothing like it is depicted in the bible. To be honest it would seem that rendition of life is out dated and lost its prime in reality of today. Im not saying its morally wrong to live accordingly to that method. But I'm not saying it's right to go by the readings of what is defined as a relic or fossil in modern society. To be homosexual i today's time is; if anything a taboo on our society and a sad one at that. To be judged for living ones desires and enjoying life through there own methods is to be called a robot. A machine. I don't have to be a rocket scientist to know shunning someone for being different is wrong. I support the LGBT and what Giffy has been speaking on as well.
I posted this in General Chat, but it deserves to be here too NZ MARRIAGE EQUALITY BILL TO PASS: 61 CURRENTLY: YES: 54 NO: 17 UNDECIDED: 11 UNKNOWN: 39 Nz is so close
I am bisexual, I haven't come out to my family yet, a little nervous because they are either hyper Christian or they're like my aunt who stated and I quote, "If I ever found out you were gay I'd beat it out of you." Pleasant right? I know!! Though my entire friend group from college and most of my friends form high school know, which gives me a safe haven. I don't know just wanted to put it out there.
Texas' Present Chance of Legalizing Homosexual Marriage: Absouletely none. Any chance is nuked, beaten, eaten, puked out and repeated.
Well Cheesy, I don't really know how to tell you... I honestly don't know how to deal with those problems. But I truly think that, if you know that your parents are not going to give you support. It's obviously because they love you and don't want you going down that road. They are as you said Christians,but, if they are going to 'hate' on you then I don't think they are in the right either. As NO ONE should get hate from their parents. As for my opinion on alternate sexualities. I don't agree with being gay/bi/whatever other sexualities there are, and As a Christian I don't think it is right. But I have absolutely no problem with them, I may not agree with them, but I'm not going to hate on them, they can do whatever they want. But I won't take part in any of it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with gays, God still loves them, so that means I can still love them too I love you guys!
Does your sexual preference/identity define who you are? I'm not open about my true personal life with those around me, except my sister who lives far away. My brother probably knows little about me, and I'm content with that. For example, the fact that I'm a brony is known, but hush enough that most would forget. I try to slip that detail to friends, since this fandom is full of so much I wish to share. I am extremely wary of visiting my sister and expressing myself as a brony. She lives in Odessa.
You are aware though that this is not a path you choose, it is a path you will be going down whenever you want to or not. Sure you could do like me and basicly remain celibate, but for what purpose? I don't believe God would send you to hell for being who you were born to be, shouldn't the God of Love understand that love is not limited to physical attraction alone? You know I consider myself pansexual right? I don't know why I expect you to hold opinions I didn't at your age, I was quite a homophobe at 15, but when I learned to disregard my own preference and look at things objectively, I saw no reson for it to be wrong. This in another one of those instances were chritians, followers of a religion that should not be about material things judge the book by it's cover and disregards the very love they say they preach because a pair happen to be of the same gender, very shallow, Jesus is disapointed in you. This is not all about lust you know. As for my own sexuality, though I must admit I am primarily attracted by females, physical form is a second priority after mental attraction. I usually judge physical appearance from an objective standpoint, and not only when it comes to humans, in my mind the body of an equestrian pegasus is just as beautiful as a human female. Though it is personality that is most important to me, and I tend to like when a girl acts in a way that blurs gender roles and I like confidence and strength, aka Rainbow Dash. I also happen to like the exotic, like wings and rainbow coloured hair. So, how is this wrong? I only see that I am more open minded than those who are attracted to physical attributes primarily. I don't know how you do this, how could you disapprove of something and still see nothing wrong with it. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever. This is what seperates you from the bigots my friend, I may not agree with you, but it means you are not my enemy in my crusade to clean up christianity. I respect you my friend.
Ooh, nice to see this thread back in action! I completely agree with Prince Darkmoon here. I don't think that God would judge us over something we can't control, especially as he made us who we are. Well, since, I've actually came out as Bi to two of my friends (and accidentally my maths teacher. He's religious and I think he started disliking me that day).
N'aww *hugs* silly religious people and their views No one but people here know of my state (loving the person, not the gender, which you could interpret as pan/bisexual)
The first sentence here did kinda make me feel sad, but when I kept reading it got better. Thanks for the kind words. Having a place like a safe haven is nice. School clubs and organizations can be very supportive, as can your friends. I'm sorry to hear that you feel it difficult to come out to your family. However, I want you to know that there are people in the LGBT community who support you and wish you well.
May I just point out one little thing in you post here. When you say "so that means I can still love them too " Are you saying that if god hated something you'd follow suit and hate without question? I really could care less if that is how you run your life, I'm just curious is all.
That's the thing. God doesn't hate anything. He loves everything in his creation, you may then ask, what about Satan? Now I'm not sure what the relationship between them is, but if I think about it, he loves Satan as well, I mean he was his highest angel once, but I think he just doesn't like the things he does, and that's why he punishes Satan and those who fall into his trap. But yeah as far as I know there is only ONE thing that he hates and that is Sin and we all know Christians hate sin. But if you are thinking along the lines of if God hates a person or something along those lines, although that is not possible, if he dd, I most likely wouldn't actively hate the person, I would just not associate myself with him/her, or whatever it is. I'm generally not one to hate. I'm not sure if that's want you meant, but yeah, let;s stop here and stay on topic, I mean this is a thread for Gay and or any other confessions or what have you and I most certainly do not want to be the one to go off topic here.
