Life. I understand it's concepts and I've made many philosophies about it. But I can't solve it. Some people say that when you die you'll be dead forever, and that will be that, me being me I challenged that and concluded that the said statement is not true. If I was going to be dead forever I shouldn't be alive right now, the state I was in before I was conceived in my mothers womb is the state we call death, I was not living. You could argue differently but I did not have a form of consciousness which is the definition of life I'm going by right now. To gain consciousness... it kind of screws up the whole being dead forever part. So I made a philosophy that since when I die I'll be in the exact same state as I was in before I was born and therefore have a good chance of this exact same situation happening again where I will be born from this state so long as there are hosts with the capacity of consciousness. But this is the mystery I can not solve on this part. I can't explain how, the best way I can describe it is like a computer and the internet. But where is the internet our brains connect to? I love mysteries, and I've solved many of them with the help of others, but this one I don't think I shall ever be able to solve even though it gnaws at my head constantly.
Many, many people have come up with many different answers, unfortunately none can be verified as correct because we're dealing with things outside of our plane of existence. Perhaps it looks different from the "other side". Just find an explanation that suits you and run with it, if your ideas change or if the explanation stops being one you like, then you can just find another. Unfortunately I don't share the concern, I've got plenty to do this week, next week and so on... there's enough for me to do to make sure this life runs smoothly before I can begin to worry about ones previous or next... if that's really what happens anyway.
The concept we know as death is that which was once alive, but no longer share's those characteristics necessary to be described as such anymore. The state of nonexistence applies to both before something exists and once it is gone, death however only applies after something has lived, and then ceased to do so, not before. It's just a word we created to help us describe these scenarios with greater ease. A close analogy would be, if you are building something like a radio, before it is built it does not exist, once it is complete it works, but then if it stops working people commonly will say "my radio is dead" they do not say that before it worked, and while it physically may exist, it no longer has the characteristics we define a radio to have, it is then called junk or something similar, it no longer functions, it no longer exists as a working radio.
There's not really much I can say in this thread but I'm a simple thinker, I don't delve very often into the complexities of life because quite frankly it hurts my head lol. I believe that the soul remains active whilst the body remains in the ground, possibly travelling on a different plane of reality. These dimensional planes have been proven to exist and of course being a Christian you'd expect me to say you'd go to heaven. While I'm not questioning my faith, I think that the soul goes on a continuous loop between bodies until the day that is the day of judgement, where you are summed up for all your past lives, and so on and so forth. My mom's like a raiki and paranomal person, and she believes ghosts and orbs and stuff exist. I don't, but it could prove my theory about the dimensional planes leaking through if it was.
I don't believe in consciousness outside the physical human brain, seeing as there's absolutely no evidence for it. When you die the world just goes blank. It's pretty hard to answer these questions of "why?" seeing as we don't always get to know why. There will always be some question of "why." The truth is, we'll never know what happens to us after we die. Our brain will be dead, and so will our consciousness. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "If I was going to be dead forever I shouldn't be alive right now." Can you explain that to me?
It cannot be truly proven whether anything happens after death. Of course, it cannot be proven otherwise either. Although, there is an interesting quote on this topic This quote by Rene says that, while you are still alive, you are the person you have always been. When you die, you simply disappear and "cease to be." This is one of my personal favorite quotes of all time.
According to science, there's no such thing as a soul. We just live life and die. In fact, humans are just pointless organisms that live on this planet. I believe differently, but I won't bore you with my opinions.
Wrong, as far as science has been able to prove so far is a proper thing to say. You have to remember that science is a constantly evolving field. As far as us being able to figure a question like this out, its not likely to happen. There are some things our minds can't comprehend (at the moment) and this happens to be one of them.
My opinion on this is a little... weird, to be honest. As we've said about a million times in this thread already, despite only being on page two, there are three sections of our corporeal timeline here to take into thought and consider: Before life, Life, and after death. Let's start with the simplest thing here to put into an absolution: death. Death, by definition, is when something simply stops living. It shows no characteristics of life regardless of what they may be from person to person, it's easy to tell when somebody is dead, but it's pretty much impossible to discover what happens to the mind trapped within the body once this stage is reached. Consciousness is simply a collection of electrical discharges collected within the brain that allows a person to take in and store information, now when one dies, where do these memories go? Common sense says that they might just disappear over time, some small strain of possibility may allow them to be stored so long as the brain remains intact. To be blunt, those are really the only two logical possibilities unless the electrical discharges can somehow drastically jump from one location, plane, dimension, etc, to the next. Those who have died momentarily recall the experience as being similar to being put under by a form of general anesthesia; any and all time seems to pass almost instantaneously. As blunt as it is to say this, the only thing that allows us to believe there is such a thing as a soul is the last flickering bit of hope we desperately hold on to, because if there is no form of life or consciousness after death, well that's just a damn bleak experience don't you think? As for the other two, life and before life, this is where it gets complicated. Take a quick trip down memory lane, all the way to the point you can't remember anything further than that. Do you remember being an infant? Do you remember being 3 years old? What do you remember from you early childhood? The general consensus on this question would be something similar to "not much" and that's because as we grow up our cognitive senses begin to develop allowing us to better store memory than we usually would have as an infant. Now let's take this a little bit further, is a person completely conscious while inside the womb, or is it all simply instinct? Remember, the cognitive senses are near non-existent at this point so actually being able to take in any sort of surrounding would be impossible. Back to those instincts I just mentioned, when do you think they actually 'kick in', allowing us to become conscious beings? It's a pretty vague question. However, this all leads me back to the main point I want to make. If you can't maintain any of the memories from your early childhood or from being inside a womb you were trapped within for 9 months, do you believe we'd be able to have our consciousness and memories remain intact after death in some form of entity, or shipped off to some distant hub as a form of collection? 8^y Again, it's all a blunt look at how people perceive the world around them and how well they take it into memory, so in my opinion being dead would be exactly as it were before you consciously became aware of your surroundings. Absolutely Pure Nothingness. An empty void. It's a horrifying thought, but it's also a beautiful thought in itself that something would even be possible considering how used to conscious thought we are. Tl;Dr: Look for the SBAHJ Face ( 8^y ) and read from there. Edit: >A Sole Mystery I can't solve >Sole Mystery >Sole >Soul
I believe in heavenly white ponies. Not because heaven. But because ponies. I have my beliefs, I won't say my beliefs are right over yours. I don't know why I believe what I believe, but I find myself unable to NOT believe what I believe. Trust me, I've tried. In my heart (AND MY GAHDANGSOUL X3) I feel that what I believe is right (again not saying you're wrong, just saying it feels right FOR ME). I always get this feeling, like a feeling that what I believe brings me peace... but it's deeper then peace of mind which is why I believe a soul does exist. I feel this peace farther down then just simple thought and heart... it's like a place I couldn't reach even if I tried - physically. So that's mah view... X3 I kept getting distracted by Zeph's dang signature while I was writing this @_@
My beleifes are my own your beleifes are your own. That's what makes us who we are. End of story as far as I'm concerned :derpe:
Quotes aside, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows what is after death. There could be nothing. There could be something. Either way, I guess I'll live life, and when death comes, I'll see what happens. :I
That's a great quote. I may not be in any hurry to die, but once I do, I'm interested as to what it will be like. I can only ever see the world from my perspective, and "I think therefore I am" does (to a point) verify my own existence, but I can scarcely verify the existence of others. I don't know if anything exists beyond what I'm seeing and interacting with at the moment. It's possible that my mind creates each scenario independently, and jams them all together to create what is commonly known as "reality.' However, I highly doubt that's the case. Rather, I think that maybe my brain is simply not learned enough to view the world from the perspective of every other living thing. I don't THINK anything special happens when people die, other than the dying part. That is, I haven't seen any proper evidence of an afterlife, and the existence of such a place would seem rather counter-intuitive. Dying means not living anymore, and all these things like "thoughts" and "ideas" are attributes of living things. The rock is not alive, and therefore cannot think or dream. I believe quite firmly, however, that the rock in question can do other things, for which we, as living beings, have no words because we cannot understand them. It might very well have it's own version of thought, but it would not think. To be inanimate is to "BE", and to be animate is to "DO." We, the living, are on a quest to "DO", and it is when we die that we begin to "BE", if that makes any sense. I don't think there is an afterlife. However, there is something that comes after life, and that thing is death. It might not be as bad as we think. The matter that makes up our body does not disappear, it simply changes. Our sense of identity as a living thing may come to a stop, but our existence carries on, because we're part of something much, much bigger than ourselves.
