A sole mystery I can't solve.

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  1. Echoax

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    you lie, someone knows. Dead people know, but not really. Ceasing to exist kinda doesn't allow thoughts.
     
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    But how do WE know that dead people know? We don't. Dead men tell no tales. :derpe:
     
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    If you ask for proof with me you'll have to provide proof yourself. I merely stated that I believe that since that state of 'death' is the exact same state I was before I was born and I came from that state, that I have a high chance of being alive again after I die, since I already came from that state at least once already.

    As for death, to me death is a state of non-existence whether you were alive already or not. And it's a good thing I never said there was a soul, only consciousness.
     
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    I'm pretty sure he was asking Poetic for proof behind his claim that other dimensions have been proven to exist. There's not really anything that we can or can't use to prove what you said. It's all speculation, not really any claims at all.

    I kind of like the idea of death. I like the idea that I will finally be at peace as opposed to being in an eternal church service or something of that sort. Or especially not eternally having spirit babies on another planet. Neither is much appealing.
     
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    oh dimensions? I put them up there with time, being that they don't actually exist outside the confines of mathematical practice... being that is exactly what time and dimensions are, forms of math. Time is used to measure the distance at which an object travels from one place in the cosmos to another place in the cosmos. Dimensions as well. The first dimension is simply a point anywhere in the cosmos, it has no density and no size, merely a point. The second dimension is a 2d plain which stretches out for infinity in 4 directions in the universe, and then there's the third dimension. Pretty sure we all know what 3d means. The 'fourth dimension' is supposed to add time into the equation and that's where it gets confusing for most people.
     
  6. Berry Punch

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    I think you will find I refuted that point, death is not a state, it is but a word used to talk with the correct past and future tense. the state that was the same before you were born is nonexistent, not death, it only applies to after living. You may use your own definitions if you wish, but you must state that you are going against the common socially accepted usage of the word, else you will find much difficulty with people understanding you.
     
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    To be technical, death is a state, albeit one exclusively applied to something that once lived but has ceased to do so.

    (You said this in your first post, but I thought to restate it for greater clarity.)
     
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    Although I do believe death is permanent, I believe that there is a soul, and it does live on. I believe there is more to human consciousness than just a jumble of nerve connections that 'connected in the right ways to make you' no, it is more in-depth than that. I believe there is a soul, and it what happens to it after-death is dependent on what it did while it was inside its vessel, the body. I think that 'consciousness' should not be the only thing that defines us as human, just think, couldn't very intelligent animals such as dolphins have consciousness? They think, they reason (To a degree), they interact with their environment in purposeful ways. There is a reason why our consciousness is unique, and that's because of the soul. That's what I believe, and although I will respect your opinion, I will not be swayed from it.
     
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    Duh, hence me saying. Ceasing to exist kinda doesn't allow thoughts
     
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    Perhaps they do though
    it's just no one listens
     
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    I wonder if this signifies the defiance or acceptance of kismet.
     

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