Are we overdiong it a little?

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  1. chocolatechip

    chocolatechip Now known as Neoshadow

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    no idea,thats what im trying to find out
     
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    Yeah I'm wondering what I missed too.
     
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    Forget it! I'm done! Finished! I'm no good to anyone!
     
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    Woah, hold on Frank! We want to help you! Just relax and tell us! We're all bronies here.
     
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    AAH THIS I SO CONFUZZLING!:dunno:
     
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    I see I'm not the only one who was getting a bit worried about the other thread.

    I've always had the feeling being very expressive about pride generally works counterproductive, since people that feel neutral about the issue or are on the side of the person expressing his/her pride will probably feel neutral about his/her pride, while those on the other side will most likely be annoyed by his/her urge to express his or her pride, since they don't feel the reason to express that pride is valid. If you feel the need to tell someone you like the show I think the best way is to not act like it's a secret and to be able to make fun of the fact it's not exactly something one would expect you to watch (and if you don't want someone else to point that out, do it yourself beforehand in a lighthearted manner).

    I'd say often the most mature way to defend something is not to do so, because "Yeah, well that's just like, your opinion, man".
     
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    About people worrying about my post:

    In no way do I advocate forcing opinions on others. I saw too much of it to do so. However, I don't think that if we get pushed we shouldn't push back.

    As for my proposed plan, it assumes that your outcries will bring bronies out of closets, not make new bronies. If more people join us as a result, all the better.

    Show them our numbers so they stop beating on the ones they think are alone, that is my goal.

    Note the new disclaimer in my sig.
     
  8. Yetione

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    ^well, sure, I support that bronies shouldnt' have to be in closet (I even opened one topic about it) but we don't have to go to the other limit. when someone asks me what shows I like I say: Robot Chicken, Family Guy, South Park... MLP:FiM, Chowder,... blah blah blah. so then if they ask me for details about that particular show I tell them why I like it, I'm not like: Hey look, I'm a brony you should be too, it's best show in the world.no, that would just make me look weird.
    so, bronies, don't be in closet about liking the show, but don't go overboard about it. keep it cool about it. if someone tells you that you're girly or gay for liking the show (applying to guys), use "girls like Transformers" argument, or just tell them (if they know you some longer time) something that they wouldn't expect from you like: " you know I'm always crazy" or, "oh well, seems like internet I'm too much on the internet", or something to make it a joke, but making point that you like the show because... well you like the show, and that you are normal, as you were before you knew for mlp. if needed, tell them: "and you like pokemon? *insert cartoon or show*" and that would be enough. no needs to get into some debates or anything.


    @ frankT: well since I know you bit longer, I think I know what could it be, and answer is: you're still brony, and we still accept you, you just need to calm down ,and don't take things that personal. it was nothing directly against you after all.
     
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    Pretty much. Can't wait to get my shirts and get a real brohoof from some other brony IRL.

    Bronies at my first meetup didn't count :derpe:
     
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    I agree completely with you, Yetione, but I don't think there is much we can do to keep other bronies from being 'flamboyant' other then discouraging it. I mean, we don't want to be mean ponies. :[

    I also agree on the idea that's it's also perhaps a bit wrong to shove it in people's face, just like I think some homosexuals should be careful of how much they throw around their flamboyancy, I mean, some people are just uncomfortable with homosexuality rather than hating it.
     
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    what are we talking about
     
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    apeenrlty one brony tried to raise us as a secret society with snier rifles and fancy hats
     
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  14. chocolatechip

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    and we`re trying to forgive him,but he wont let us(and i wouldnt of minded the fancy hats)
     
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    I have a top hat and an airsoft gun! Does that count...... Oh! Random fun stuff! Shooting soda cans. Full ones! They explode then roll around a bit while the pressure rockets out of the hole made by the BB. It's fun too see how fast you can make them spin!
     
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    i also have a tophat,and a crossbow that shoots sticky darts
     
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    Only if you have a monocle to compliment the hat.

    On topic however, this DOES come with the territory of any fandom. I'm a Star Wars fanatic but I'm not one of the ones who pick fights with Trekkies. You always have people that will go overboard. Sports fans can be an excellent example. You have the laid back fans and you have the louder fans who will try to start something over whatever team you support. The best we can do is try to change the attitudes of some. We can also choose to carry ourselves in a more positive light to try to overshadow some of those who might be more, rowdy.
     
  18. ePONYmous

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    That's so weird. I was just thinking about this last night while I was walking around on campus. I was thinking if I had Rainbow Dash's cutie mark somewhere on me (either a shirt with it or a button), I wouldn't use it to convert anyone, but rather to draw out and attract other bronies.



    As far as this topic is concerned, I hope you do not think it pompous of me to quote myself from the original topic of which you speak:

    Basically, I don't condone violence at all. The only time I ever see it as acceptable is if you're defending yourself. That is different altogether. Brony or not, if you're in a situation where the only way out is to physically defend yourself, then so be it. I don't think that's what we're talking about here though. For example, one should never respond to verbal hate with a physical attack. In general, if the violence is on the offensive, I find very few scenarios where that's acceptable in everyday normal life of the average individual*. Violence just makes things worse.

    If someone hates MLP:FiM, fine. No big loss. Let them hate. In fact, they have every right to hate the show. They are under no obligation to like the show, or us for that matter. However, taking it beyond that and yelling slurs at someone or physically attacking them is over the line (this isn't exclusive to bronies. It's to ANY fandom or lifestyle, assuming the aforementioned don't hurt anyone).

    If someone called me a homophobic epithet because I like the show, being the non-violent individual I am, I'd probably just ignore it. It's really not worth the exacerbation by responding with another slur and/or violence, but if someone tried to physically harm me to get their point across, then I'll defend myself if required. Fortunately for me and where I live, I doubt I'd ever encounter such things, but to be on the safe side, I keep my interests to myself. Besides, it's really no one's business what I like unless I choose to reveal it, and if I do, I don't force it or beg for attention. To the contrary, I typically try to remain unnoticed.

    It's perfectly fine to have brony pride, but don't force it upon someone. One final note, to those that mentioned bronies that are in the closet/stable; You're right, we "shouldn't" have to be in it, but for those of us that are, myself included, we have our reasons. I ask that those of you kindly respect that and please don't tell us to not be private about it. If in the future we choose to "come out," we'll do so on our own terms and when we see fit.

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    *"Average individual": I chose this term carefully. What I mean are those that do not have occupations where physical confrontations are unfortunately part of the job to ameliorate a situation (e.g., law enforcement).
     
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    1. Just my two cents:

    People should be proud of who they are, not what they like or what they are into. Homosexuals have a right to be treated equally because their gender identity is biological and unchangeable. Homosexuality is so pervasive amongst mammals that it isn't just normal, it is natural. We as mammals must accept this state-of-being as much as we have to accept Albinism, excessive height or a widows peak.

    What a lot of us forget is that we're not disliked because we enjoy a cartoon for children, we are disliked because we like a cartoon for female children. Much of human society on this planet is patriarchal by default. Additionally, there are expectations of boys/men within most societies that must be followed else we suffer persecution for daring to step outside of the norm. Again a flaw of human society. Were we only fighting against the thought that we are lesser men because we choose to love and tolerate others rather than be physically violent, hateful and spiteful; we'd see very little outside of casual shock from others.

    WHERE WE GET INTO TROUBLE- Is false equivalency that our choice to enjoy a show outside of our demographic, for good or ill, is akin to a natural state. Enjoying 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic' is not the same as being a specific ethnic group, religion(Argument for this at a later time!) or gender identity. It's a choice we all make and suffer the consequences for it. I have no problem liking what is genuinely good. I also happily defend anyone's right to enjoy what is genuinely good so long as it's not hurting themselves or others. The line gets drawn at false equivalency. Enjoying a cartoon and demanding others accept you for doing it is pretty pathetic, not to mention childish. Additionally It's not very loving to do that either.
     
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    Oh I'm a sham! I should've mentioned it only to be self-defence! Nothing more! NOTHING MORE! :cry:
     

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