Grown Men and Ponies???

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  1. ItsMeStella

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    I wanted to start this topic, so I can show it to my mother. My mom didn't want to take me to BronyCon, saying their are too many creeps there. I tried to explain to her that its like girls and TMNT. I guess she just thinks I'm lying. So what do you ponies think? Is it wrong to take a teen girl to BronyCon, when their are grown men there, dressed as ponies. Only us bronies and Pega-sisters can understand this topic fully, but I want a second opinion. I want to go next year, if I can, so leave your full opinion here. If you think its wrong, write it. I just want to read what people have to say.
     
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    I think its fine to bring a teen girl to bronycon even if there were creeps there. there's creeps every where not like they would do anything.
     
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    well, I don't see anything wrong with some girls going to bronycon.
    Grown men liking mlp is basically same grown women liking transformers, which were originally intended to be targeted at young boys.
    Still double standards stand which is, tbh, sad part of people's opinions.
     
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    this, no more strange then the creeps at comic-con, the the Anime ones tend to outshine the rest when it comes to creeps
     
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    Go dressed as a pony and watch as people freak out when they realize you're female. :Trollestia:
     
  6. ItsMeStella

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    Thats what I told my mom. I will be the odd one out.
     
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    Nothing wrong with a teenage girl going to bronycon. It's for all genders male and female. Some people forget that there's a difference between liking a little girl's show and liking little girls.
     
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    I think you'll be fine.

    I wish I could go, that would be so cool...
     
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    No problem, I was at a meetup recently and found that most bronies are very ethical and would not do anything that would harm another, I left my wallet and rare custom Rainbow Dash blindbag figure very vulnerable the whole weekend and was assured it would not get stolen.

    We bronies might seem creepy to the general public, but we are generally very nice people and I can guarantee that bronycon would be alot safer than the average street, bar, resturant or movie theatre.

    And that some people thinks I like little girls because I like ponies pisses me off. I hate this society, making stupid connections where there is none. Even if you are sexually attracted to ponies most of them are adults and over the age of consent, so the connection with pedophilia is void and stupid.

    Yeah, my main point is that bronies is probably the least dangerous group you could come across, much less dangerous than men that don't like ponies in fact. I could not imagine a brony assaulting or harassing anyone. I cannot speak for all, but to me it seems contradictory to what we are about.
     
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    I don't think I'd feel safer at any convention than at a Brony convention. I'm eighteen years old, to set the record straight.

    Age has a lot to do with this; many parents are uncomfortable with their children running around in public places like cities and unfamiliar towns unsupervised, especially if they don't know who their child is going to be with. If she isn't going with you, and if you're underage, I can certainly see why this would trouble your mother.

    However, public places are not generally full of creeps, and there's no reason to suggest that Brony meetups attract those kinds of people. In Chicago, the city whose suburbs make up my place of residents, there have been multiple public shootings this year where gang members walked up to young children under the age of ten, regardless of whether they were with their parents, and shot them dead. You are going to be safer at this convention than you would be on the streets in a city.

    What your mother should TRULY concern herself with are these issues:

    1) Where is it, and how will you get there? Who will take you?

    2) What sort of supervision will you receive? A family member? A Friend? Nobody? Your mother? And how consistently will they be watching you, if at all?

    3) What costs are associated with travel to and from the convention, and with staying in the town where the convention is hosted? Is there an entry fee?

    4) Finally, of what events and activities will the convention consist? I can personally say that this is not an issue. If we were talking about a gun convention, there might be safety concerns, but a convention about pastel ponies is entirely harmless. At conventions I've been to, I typically visit different booths and stores, eat somewhere, sit through a seminar, and occasionally view or partake in a game hosted by someone at the convention. There will always be little fun and entertaining things on the side for you to do. This is no problem.

    I sincerely hope that you and your mother come to an understanding.
     
  11. Frost

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    I'm sure your mom is picturing a crowd of creepy old guys who will descend upon you like a swarm of locusts the second you enter the building.


    Firstly, bronies are statistically around 20-25 years old. Most of the users on this site are probably 15-25. So, the majority of bronies are teenagers and young adults, highschoolers and college kids. Not exactly old men, although I suppose you don't have to be old to be a creeper. There is a chance you may get hit on, but I doubt it; people go to conventions for the convention, not to pick up chicks.

    Secondly, girls do go to BroNYcon. They are in the minority sure, but it isn't a male only event. And so far the worst thing that has happened at a brony convention that I know of is a ceiling light caught fire. No one was hurt though.

    Third, the above users are probably correct that bronies are probably some of the friendliest and kindest people you will meet. Walking around at BroNYcon is not going to be like walking around downtown Detroit at 3am.

    HOWEVER, that does not mean that you should not take precautions. Kind people or not, these people ARE strangers and you should never place your trust in strangers. The fact that it is a Brony convention doesn't really make a positive or negative difference in terms of your personal safety. You will be in a place you are unfamiliar with, surrounded by people you don't know. So if you do go, take the appropriate measures to decrease your vulnerability and keep yourself safe.

    1. Go with someone. Be it a parent or a friend. If you are under 18, you will probably have to go with a parent anyway, unless you're old enough to drive. Regardless, when you are there, stick together at all times. I'm sure you have heard of the buddy system. NEVER go anywhere alone, not even to the bathroom.

    2. Guard your money and belongings. Only take however much cash you think you will need, nothing more. Don't bring credit cards with you and don't carry anything valuable in your purse, in case it should get stolen. Also don't carry anything very valuable on your person or wear expensive jewelry. You don't want to attract potential theives. To that end, don't flash your cash around. Only take it out when you want to buy something, then put it away. Also don't carry large amounts of cash on you. And NEVER set your purse or anything you purchase down somewhere, even if only for a moment. A moment is all it takes for someone to swipe it.

    3. Pick a place to meet should you get separated from your group. Make sure everyone knows where everyone else is in the group at all times. Keep your cellphones on you, turned on and fully charged.

    4. I don't think I should really have to say this, but never go ANYWHERE with anyone you don't know. For any reason. Ever.



    If you've ever gone to a field trip to a city, most of these should already be familiar to you. If you go, it's ok to have fun and enjoy yourself, just use common sense. Don't let your guard down and never go anywhere alone. Life is full of risks no matter what you do or where you go. But if the proper precautions are taken you can drastically reduce that risk. So as long as you take the appropriate precautions, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't go.




    By the way, this advice isn't just for the OP, it's for all of you. If you plan on going to BroNYcon, or any big event for that matter, take the proper precautions. Keep yourself safe. I wouldn't want to see anything happen to any of you.




    By the by, the convention was moved to Seacaucus, New Jersey this year, and I assume it will be there from now on. Seacaucus is near Newark, which isn't exactly a very safe city, but I've been to conventions at the Jacob-Javitz Center in NYC. Being in the convention is completely different from being on the city streets. It's much safer and there is usually plenty of security. Still, precautions...
     
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    You will be fine your mom is just not use to men liking Ponies xD My aunt didn't want me to get pony stuff when i first told her and she sat down and watch and eposide with me she doesnt have a problem with it now Men liking ponies is the manlyest thing there is i think If Women can like it then Men can like it too doesnt make us any more Creepy x3
     
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    Nicely said. I too feel a great deal of respect for fellow bronies. It almost, no, it does feel like we're all a big family. Most of us would never do anything to hurt another brony.
     
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    I think this is the best answer on this thread so far. There's little to worry about, but taking the right precautions should give your mother the ease of mind to allow you to take her.
     
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    I agree with Foxy who agrees with Frost. :p


    No seriously, that pretty much sums it up.
     
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    I agree with Rarit E who agrees with Foxy who agrees with Frost!
     
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    I might as well carry on the trend. I agree with Darkshine who agrees with Rarit E who agrees with Foxy who agrees with Frost. It's always important to go with someone, whether they're a parent or a good friend. You should be fine though. Bronies are generally nice people.
     
  18. ItsMeStella

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    This is what I don't understand. I'm not a little girl anymore. I can and do take care of myself on a dailey basis. She drops me off at the mall on my own, the movies, restauranuts. Someone could easily threaten to kill me if I didn't go with them. Just the other night, I was stuck outside the movies with my sister, because she forgot to pick us up. But going to bronyCon with her by my side is dangerous. I think shes starting to be ok with the idea, as she knows shes gonna take me eitheir way. I just don't understand why not.
     
  19. ItsMeStella

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    I stayed in seacaucaus last year *with my mother* during the summer. Its good that we can afford it. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  20. Frost

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    Just FYI, if this ever happens to you (or anyone else) don't go with them. Scream, run, whatever. The threat is just a threat, what they're really after is to get you away from other people. You're much better off taking your chances and trying to attract as much attention as possible.


    As for the rest, the reason your mother is reluctant is because 1. as you already stated she thinks you will be the only girl in a building filled with hundreds of creepy old lechers. While it may not be true, I could see why a parent would think that. Parents minds have a tendency to instantly jump to worst case scenarios where their children are involved, and since bronies are mostly young adult or adult males, what she is picturing is the worst case scenario. It's a parent thing, so you really can't blame her for that.

    As far as letting you go to public places alone that are closer to home but not somewhere like BroNYcon, that is a human thing. People tend to think that places close to home, familiar places, are safer than venturing out alone somewhere that is unfamiliar. That is just not true. There are plenty of people that get attacked or abducted not even a block from their home, or even right in front of their own houses. Familiar places tend to lure people into a false sense of security, but that is a way of thinking that almost all of the human population has. So you really can't blame her for that either.



    Your best bet would be to communicate with her about it as much as possible. Explain to her what the convention is all about, what goes on there and what the experience will be like. You could direct her to the BroNYcon website, show her videos from previous BroNYcon conventions, or pull up blog posts and reviews on the internet from people describing their experiences at BroNYcon. This will be good information for you as well so you know what to expect if you should go, if you haven't already done this already. Also, reassure her that you will take all the proper precautions and that you will be right next to her the whole time, and don't tell her that in an offhand attitude. Talk to her seriously about it so she knows that you are taking your personal safety seriously. Don't just talk to her about it once, keep the lines of communication open. Allow her to ask questions and answer them to the best of your ability. Just don't pester her about it, or lose your temper with her if she seems against it, or if she still can't shake her misconceptions about the event. If you act mature when you are discussing it with her, she will be more likely to think you are mature enough to go on a trip and attend an event like this.


    If at the end of the day she won't let you go no matter what, oh well. There's always next year.


    By the way, if she doesn't let you go, try not to be too mad at her, she's just worried about you. And it doesn't really matter if you're 5, 16 or 27, she's still going to be worried about you. It's a mom thing.
     
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