I was just wondering, if some or any of you guys are straight edge. If you don't know straight edge was brought into existence and a movement by kids/ bands that weren't into self destruction. Ian Mackaye wrote the lyrics to the song "straight edge" he was writing a model of how he lived his own life. He didn't thing others would take this as a model to their life as well. (I don't feel going all history right now) The basic ideas of a straight edge life are. 1- Never drinking any form of alcohol. 2- Never smoking 3- No taking of drugs for recreational use. 4- No promiscuous sex 5- being a vegan( some people do it, others don't, it depends on the person) Now because of those ways of living, I've had to take a lot of crap. It's not the cool thing to do. (apparently) Oh well, what do you guys think of straight edge or the people who live by it?
1 : Everything in moderation works, since every fruit in existance has alcohol content. At least after digestion. 2 : lol smoking. I see no point really, so dun smoke. 3 : Lol drugs. I'm... strange enough as it is, no need to worsen it! 4 : Dun mind. Nuff said. 5 : Same as alcohol. People need protein, but if you don't like meat don't eat meat. All in all? I can love and tolerate the peoples, since they don't fall under douchebags. Even the vegan part, even though medically it doesn't help except in getting malnutrition. PS: THe meat... it tastes so GOOD!
Well as far as the moderation thing goes. At least to me and I don't want to argue about it, but I see drinking alcohol as a sign of weakness. My friends drink when they want to have fun, so for them alcohol is needed to have fun. Others drown themselves in it when there sad. Worst of all are the idiots that do it for fun. That's my opinion on alcohol at least and I really don't plan on arguing it.
One of my friends is straight edge. Well, he claims to be, but he drinks and smokes all the time. He's probably just doing it to seem cool, I don't know. As for me, I'm not too fond of a movement that implements rules on your lifestyle. I don't like the lack of flexibility that brings. I mean, I'm a teetol, drug free non smoker, but that's because I don't like any of those things, not because I can't. It's always nice to know you have the option of something, even if you have no intention of following up on it. On a related note, I can't actually drink alcohol (or anything with caffeine, or even any liquid in large amounts). I have a kidney condition which means if I was to drink alcohol, my kidney would actually tear open. It's painful, trust me. As I said, I wouldn't even touch alcohol even if I could (I don't see the point of getting drunk, and I don't see the point of drinking alcohol without getting drunk), but it would still be nice to know I can. Smoking, I just don't get it. I know some drugs give you highs and what not, but I don't get what smoking does. Apparently it's a stress reliever. Well, if it is, there are much healthier ways of going about relieving stress. Meat is part of a healthy diet, so I'd do well to keep eating that. Remember, eating salads and what is all very good, but a healthy diet is based on balance rather than content. It's what you eat in comparison to what else you eat, and meat is one of the big ones. Besides, some meat, like fish is very healthy. Except some meats don't count as meat for some reason, which I don't fully understand. Ethics? I don't know. Drugs, yes they can feel good, but I'm not sure the damage they cause is worth it. In moderation, some can be fine. Carl Sagan smoked weed, and he remained a genius all his life. I actually support legalization. Every Saturday, on all the high streets of the UK, people go and get drunk, throw up, get into fights, sometimes worse. All the stoners I know stay home all day, eat loads of mars bars, giggle at stuff and watch cartoons. Just pointing that out. Sex, hey, if two people are consenting and sensible about it, I don't see the harm, provided they both know it's just some no strings attached fun. Basically, as long as it doesn't involve others, people should be free to live life how they want. If you don't drink or smoke because you don't want to, excellent, good move, but I wouldn't advise doing it as part of a movement. That said, I suppose at least it's a positive movement, promoting a healthy living. I mean, at least you don't wear pointy white hats and call yourself imperial wizards.
This started in the 80's. If I so chose, I could start doing all of those things. Being straight edge doesn't mean you are forced to live that way, I'm not a vegan. The promiscuity sex thing is more in line with the idiots in college that make a game out of how many girls they can get. I personally see no reason people have to turn to alcohol and drugs to live their lives.
I am very admirable of you being straight edge pixel. I'm not so much and it is making my life very difficult. I am addicted to alcohol. I drink it way too much and have nights where I thought I was dying of alcohol poisoning. I was straight edge until 6 months after I turned 18 (legal drinking age) and was peer pressured by my best friend to come and drink for my first time at his party. It was fun and I got moderately tipsy. Then about 3 months later I had another friends birthday party were I go so pissed I vomited, embarrassed myself and passed out. Then I started getting drunk once a month for the fun of it, mostly on my own. Then that shifted to fortnightly. Then I got a job and was happy at first I was earning lots of money and independent. But as a shy, social recluse I found the job of a salesperson difficult to cope with and eventually after about 6 months of it started dreading every single day and could find no joy in life except by drinking every few nights so I could forget about my dread of the next day and have fun for a least a few hours. My complete immunity to hangovers, did not help my situation as I would recover so well the next day after getting completely smashed that my workmates and boss never noticed. I was at least sensible enough to never be drunk at work. But my immunity to hangovers made it possible for me to drink every single night and after a while I eventually did and my intense depression eventually caused me to quit, without much of a plan of where I would work after moving to the city. I was unemployed and I went back to drinking fortnightly, but only because I could not afford any more alcohol then that since I would starve if I had any more. So I started to recover due to financial limitation and being happier thanks to being able to return to being a social recluse and not having to talk to strangers every day. I started school a while later. Then a friend of mine showed me how I could get alcohol at 25% of the price I was currently paying for it. I took advantage of this way too much. I went back to drinking daily. Still immune to hangovers I could still go to school and never have anyone notice my problem. So yeah I am still an alcoholic, but I have been employing a strategy of paying as much of my rent and school fees as possible as soon as I get my money while leaving me with the almost minimum food budget possible. But pretty much every fortnight I still settle for even cheaper food so I can get at least some alcohol. Still this strategy has made me drink a bit less, but I am still an alcoholic and pretty hopelessly addicted and daydream constantly about when I will get my next drink. I have learned from this though and have never tried any other drug, because I know I will get addicted to it and one drug addiction is enough to deal with. Wow another story I would have never shared with anyone other then bronies. In fact no one knows about this now other then you guys, not even my best friends know, because they are straight edge and I am worried about their disapproval or forced intervention.
Well, I'm not on the radical side, so I'm not going to force my belief down your throat. I'm not even really sure what to say about your story, so I'll share why I've decide to stay edge. I'm keeping it short though. Back in the year 2004, I lived with my grand parents, I hadn't see my father for 13 years and my mother was never job stable. Well, I got a call from my aunt, who was every upset. After a few minutes of my grandfather talking to her, he said we have to go to the hospital. We got to the hospital and when the doctor started talking about the cause of death, I was told to leave. Now I've never been told the real reason behind her death. But I was able to piece stuff together myself. I know she had a history of drugs and I've seen what it cause. I had always believed in sXe, but back then I didn't know it even know it was a real thing. So after that day I further pushed myself into straight edge. I've had a good record of myself of 20 years. But I've also had a best friend turn to drugs and an ex-girlfriend become addicted to pills.
To follow up on moderate drinking: I cant say I don't drink. At a festive occasion, I might as well, since I do like wine. Call me a snob, but good wine is probably the only alcoholic bevrage that I can claim to enjoy, and not because it contains said ethonol. However, it actually surprised me for a bit when I found out that people drink to get drunk. I see drunkness more as a bad side effect of drinking, and know my limit, so I can stay sober. It also helps that beer and anything stronget than 20 degrees tastes horrible to me. What it boils down to is, I see no problem in drinking as long as you do it right. Don't do it for the drunk, and you're fine. The only problem is telling when you need to stop, but that just takes practice. Practice that many people don't have untill after they jump right into the deep end of the pool of alcohol.
It's called a pelviureteric junction obstruction, or a PUJ obstruction. Basically, I was born with a knot in my kidney tube. As liquid goes into the kidney, the knot makes it all build up and stretch the kidney. It happens to me irregularly, but usally every 1-2 weeks, once a month it gets really bad. At its worst, it's been compared to the male equivalent of childbirth. That's when I got rushed into hospital with blood coming out of both ends, not nice at all. But back on topic, Setz, I had no idea you had problems with alcohol. I would love to give you advice and help you, but with something that serious, I don't feel qualified. All I feel I should say, is don't hesitate to get professional help.
I've really got to stop depressing you all with my problems, I should stop revealing too much here, I'm sorry. I'll be fine. I will figure it out. Creative motivation from ponies will keep me occupied.
@Setzer - Silly filly, that's what we're here for! I wish I could give some wonderful advice, but I really think that's something for the professionals to handle. @Pixel - I remember hearing about Straight Edge long ago, but it didn't matter to me because I pretty much live my life like that anyways. My mother was an alcoholic, so I never got interested in drink, I could never get a date, much less get laid, both my parents smoked like chimneys and I hated it so was never interested - but I do eat meat. Not so much anymore, because it's expensive and I'm poor. I've tried a vegan lifestyle for a while, but found it difficult to stay on, and I really had no motivation to stay on it. I still like some vegan dishes, though. I'm told my vegan lasagna is the best! Hmm, did I miss any points? I think that's it. Any ways, if it's the way you want to live, Pixel, go ahead. It's not a bad life style - there's lots worse. Although I can see people having problems with being dictated that way. And, yeah, people will make fun of you. From my experience, people will find something to make fun of you. The best thing to do, in my humble opinion, is to roll with it. Oh, I see I forgot no drugs! Well, obviously, that stuff never entered my mind. I wasn't scared away from drugs as a kid, or had parents that screamed I should never do it, it just never seemed the way to go. Artificial highs never interested me. I was always more happy when I was doing things, like hiking or reading - and the idea of smoking something didn't interest me, of course, nor did sticking a needle in my arm, or snorting stuff up my nose. None of that seemed fun to me, for some reason. I will admit to later in life trying so marijuana, but it was an accidental in nature, and that's a story for another time.
I have an awful feeling that I will be tempted by much of what we're talking about in the future (probably not the sex part though...). Hopefully I won't crack under the pressure and become affected by alcohol or drugs. I've done a good job so far, so hopefully I won't succumb...
I'd say anyone who's straight edge is quite noble.... I don't do any of the sort except for the last one But then again, I'm 15. But somehow most of my classmates do. But I'm not considered cool...
When I first started drinking, it wasn't a problem. I was able to drink occasionally and not crave it too much afterwards. The problem all started because of when I started drinking to cope with a depressing time in my life and even though my life is much better now, I still feel like I need to drink to feel happy, or motivated. My creative ideas mostly come to me when I'm sober, but then I normally need to be drunk to be motivated to do something with them. I am addicted to energy drinks too, I normally have one every day and if I don't I fell even more unmotivated and lazy. Anyway I'm about to go cold turkey on both these addictions, because I deliberately made my self too broke to afford them.
I can't say that I'm a straight edge type of person... drinking, is my main problem. I've crashed so many times at a bar when I'm depressed, it's not even countable I don't think. My liver's gonna tear itself apart if I don't stop. That's why I stick to wine... Vodka was my main Poison when I went to bars... we all know how potent they make that stuff. EDIT: Me and you are more alike than we know, Setz. My wife has threatened to leave me on occasion because of my... problem. I'm telling you Setz; Don't give up. If I can try, you can too. It's what were here for. I only pray that Chris (Dan Hibiki) Doesn't end up following my mistakes. However; These mistakes make us stronger in the long run. I firmly believe that with the proper help of friends, we can both conquer this addiction. As I type, I am consuming alchohol... just shows how much of a hypocrite I am. This is why I know I have to stop, even if it means my wife has to leave me to realize how I can stop it. Please, Setz. Let them (And me) help you (And me, again) get over this. It's okay if you burden us, because we are here to help, whether we like it or not.
> Not considered cool I lol'd. Last time I cared about being cool was... 12 years old or so. Then I realized that what the hay, all the cool kids are douchebags with bad habits. Let thein be stupid, I'll stick to what I do. As for addictions, I guess you could say that the pony addiction is real, but it's free so I dun mind.
