Affirmative Action

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  1. Dilly Star

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    See, I just don't think that's a fair assumption.
     
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    I like Sinderlocke, but then she gets into a serious thread, and her weird strange ideas make me cry and start to lose hope for humanity
     
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    Fixed the code on that for you. It's [s ] [/s ] without the spaces.

    I don't think ad hominem is the way to go here. I disagree with a lot of the things Sinderlocke says, but I'm not saying anything about her as a person.
     
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    what? .
     
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    Which part can I clarify for you, Rada? :smile:
     
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    ad hominem
     
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    It's short for "argumentum ad hominem" which means "attack against the man"; I was asserting that Sinderlocke's personality isn't relevant to the debate at hand, and proposing that we forego any potentially offensive statements towards her in the hopes of maintaining civility in this thread.
     
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    I can see the loss of civility from a mile away
     
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    I agree, this thread was to discuss the current racial events and problems that are arising from them(although I don't think it is happening anywhere else), not attack Sinderlocke.

    Regardless, are there any problems in america at the moment? Or any country for that matter? we don't get much in the line of international news here.
     
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    America has problems, but they're nothing compared to the rest of the world, the only the media here focuses on is anything that could affect this country in some way. Even the so-called "world news" doesn't tell us much more. Not tomention our news blows everything out of proportion. For example,the coverage those anti-American protests makes it seem like most of the middle east is crying for death to America, when in reality, .007% of the worlds Muslim population is protesting. Does news here say that? No siree bob.
     
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    So instead of news you are getting propaganda?
    Seems legit
     
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    I wouldn't say Propoganda, but I get what you mean man, and yes, it's is quite legit.
     
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    Well, a lot of the news programs in these United States of America have political biases. MSNBC has a Liberal bias, while Fox News sits at the other side of the spectrum with a Conservative bias. There are a few non-biased (as much as they can be) news programs, but they often get ignored because they rarely invest as much emotion into their assessment of politics and the Democratic and Republican parties.

    So yes, those biased news programs do spread intense amounts of propaganda, but fortunately we have alternative news programs available.
     
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    Is it bad that as a liberal, I love to watch MSNBC?
     
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    Nah, you're their target audience. It makes sense.
     
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    Another thing, what is with all this, Liberal, capitalist and republican stuff? We don't have any of that in SA.
     
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    Different countries, different parties
     
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    could you go into a little more detail?
     
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    Democrats are Liberal. Republicans are Conservative.

    Liberal and Conservative, at their simplest, most basic definition in the U.S. refer to economic policy (Liberal = more spending, Conservative = less spending). They've come to mean other things because of their association with the two political parties. For example, it's common knowledge that Conservatives/Republicans are generally some combination of anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-spending, and pro-"family values". Liberals/Democrats are generally the opposite.

    Capitalism is a completely different idea. Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are all words that are thrown around in American politics, so I'll give you a brief summary:

    - Capitalism = an economic system based on private ownership and less government involvement in business
    - Socialism = an economic system based in the idea of co-ownership between the people and the government
    - Communism = an economic system and Socialist-oriented idea where there is no government and wealth is distributed equally among the people

    Generally, there's a lot of propaganda surrounding these words. Some politicians use Socialism and Communism to refer to Totalitarian systems of government, while using Capitalism to refer to Democratic systems of government.

    Totalitarian = government controls the people
    Democratic = people control the government




    Keep in mind that all of these definitions are watered-down and generalized for the sake of time and convenience. I encourage you to do more of your own research.
     
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    Thanks dilly, Yeah I knew the definitions of those words, I just didn't know how they fitted in with US politics, and you answered that
     

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