Meat and How We Get It

Food is food. Meat is meat. Humans need protein.

There are more farm animals, collectively, than the entirety of humanity combined.

It's both a matter of food and a matter of population control.

 

The thing is that we can really stop hurting and killing animals in future by starting to eat artificialy grown meat. The special technology has been recently developed, wich alows to artificily grow normal meat. This meat is a normal meat, not artificial. It is just artificialy grown, that's all.
So the point is that you can eat normal meat but without hurting and killing animals. I don't see what's wrong with that and really don't understand why some people don't like the idea. Do they think it will be bad for their health or something ? Maybe they just enjoy the idea of hurting or killing living creatures, or, maybe, they even like to do it themselfs. I really don't know why they object.

 

Its not natural..plus its easier and quicker to cut the meat off a dead cow than it is to wait months for a chunk of flesh to grow in a tube .Plus it might not even work.

 

That new practice would increase the cost of meat though. It'd drastically affect farmers because farmers make their money by selling their livestock to slaughterhouses/meat packing companies.

I understand, I don't really like hurting any animal at all. But by not doing that, livestock farmers would be put out of a job, and meat companies would likely vanish. I'd rather there be less poor people.

 

And what if it's not natural ? Will you personaly explode ?=) Artificial hearts are not natural, but people use them. Clothes are not natural, but people use them. Why not use artificialy grown meat ? Or do you mean that it's against God's will or something ? If so, i, personaly, consider that as invalid argument. No offence, plz.

I really don't think that people should always chose the quick pathes. But they really should chose moraly right ones. Besides, you don't really know how this technology will work. Maybe it allow to grow meat quite fast, who knows. And it will surely develope even more in the future. So the quickness is not a problem, i think.

So we wait and see, my friend.=) We wait and see.

But that's ok when we are talking about proggres! Remember what was happening when Ford with his new idea started to act! But now we have a proggres thanks to it.

BTW, guys, do you know, that this technology was developed not because everyone loves animals. but because scientists forcast that normal meat will totaly vanish in future ? It's the true reason why they created it! So we will use this technology sooner or later, but anyhow.

 

And who will decide what is morally right? You?

 

You're arguing with a nerd. I know how it works.And it takes a very long time to just grow a few cells. Not to mention it requires nutrient tubes and a pump that acts as a heart. Very expensive and difficult to get right.

Hatta just burned you.

 

Well ther were no longtime studies made by now, so to be correct it is possible to affect your health in a negative way. And you dont know if the taste is good, since the taste of normal meat is affected by the food the animal consumes and how the animal is treated.
I thin it is a possibility if it is good and tested enough over long time studies. But that will take some years you know?

 

See the thing is, humans were physically designed to consume meat, and as a result our bodies are somewhat dependent on the nutrients it provides. However, this isn't to say someone can't choose to wean themselves off of it for a variety of reasons. It's not my concern, and they're free to do so.

However

This all changes when I'm belittled for my choice to partake in the consumption of meat, and this has happened before too. To keep things short, I was sitting at the school cafeteria and was enjoying a turkey sandwich when the girl next to me gives me the most disgusted look as she literally said "Ew. Meat.", right at me. I was rather taken aback and it took a few seconds for me to process this absurdity, though once it did I dumped my sandwich into her salad, stood up, and said, "Ew. Ignorance."

This brings me back to my point, if you want to avoid it's consumption for moral or health reasons, that's fine, but understand that everyone is both morally and physically different and as a result I expect people to be mindful of that. Though I'm sure many of us can agree that the state in which much livestock is treated is horrendous in places. While I do enjoy the taste of a slice of ham and understand an animal gave it's life to sustain mine, I personally believe there's no need for unnecessary suffering and as a result a few brands and companies because I'm against their methods, such as Lipton and McDonalds. Much reform is needed

 

Right now, it maybe like that. But we are talking about the future too. And not the nearest one only. So we just need to see what they will do to improve this technology.

My heart, if i can put it like that, or my spirituality, if you like. And both my heart and spirituality say to me that hurting and killing someone is a bad thing. You don't agree, i suppose ?

First of all, I think the taste does not matter when you can save someone's live, don't you think ? And even if it does matter, i guess they will come up with some ideas to improve the taste of it artificialy. And as for health damaging- that's an important question indeed. But surely they will try to make it ok for health i guess. Anyway all these particular questions will be answered only in future. So we need to wait and see.

Ramza, can you be the only person here who understands my point of view ?=) Oh my soul mate, we are few, but moraly right.=)

 

In the future when we find a way to cheaply invest in the technology to create test-tube meat, the business will take off like wildfire leaving the livestock-based meat sales in the dust as it rapidly progresses.

While I've already made it clear I'm against unnecessary in animals, regardless of what my morality is/will be, in the future when this takes hold it won't matter all too much when a majority of meat will be lab-grown anyway. Though I'm curious to see the debates that take place then on products that may claim "Naturally grown". Would they be considered cruel given the more humane alternative we have, or would it still be seen as normal regardless of time?

To sum it up? Morality won't matter once there's an industry to play upon it.

If it doesn't work out in the end? Look to my previous post.

Also...

This next quote about sums up my thought on this.

Enjoy your own choices in morality. but don't criticize others'.

 

I think y'all are forgetting that the average cow has the intelligence of a grape.

 

Yeah, but they've been proven to develop best friends and become depressed upon separation of their friends.
Despite the lack in intelligence, I don't want to eat a sad cow.

It might taste...



Sour.

 

...but can feel pain just like you, and fear death just like you, and wants to live just like you. So, i don't see how this makes an excuse for killing it. According to your logic we can also kill and hurt retarted people, for example.
It's basicly a question of love and compassion, actually. You have it or you don't have it in you soul.

 

Because WE need to live too?

Bye your logic a wolf is evil because it kills other animals.

 

I think my logic needs to be brought into the equation.

I will never be vegetarian unless liberal thoughts destroy the lovely centrism I have going on in my head (which will never happen). Why, I hear you ask? Well, that's simple:

Meat is delicious.

 

The moral argument can be brought into many other things as well
Abortion
Gay Rights
War
Deportation
Scientific advancements.

Disregarding the argument just because you don't like it isn't the way to back up your side of the debate.

Again, I take the middle ground here. Meat is delicious and I love it, and I also need it because I'm an athlete (Yarr, protein) but I would prefer the livestock industry be handled in a more courteous way to the food we eat.