Meat and How We Get It

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  1. Zephyr

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    I've tried just about every kind of animal under the sun, except dogs and cats of course, and raccoons and possums because those animals are utterly filled with parasites.

    I've had venison, bear, alligator, squirrel, sheep, goat, shark, etc.
    Alligator and bear are to die for.
     
  2. Valkyyria

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    Really? I didnt like alligator.. tasted like chicken but felt like an old leather patch :D
     
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    Well I had it from a famous restaurant so it may have tasted different :B
     
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    I had it from a good mongolian grill restaurant here. ^^

    But well maybe its ust different taste, im not that big fan of chicken so... ^^

    Edit: but i think we are going of topic here right now :p
     
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    As long as the animals live a healthy life, and are killed painlessly, then I'm completely okay with eating meat. To my knowledge, there are regulations in place to make sure that is how things work, and so I don't worry about it.

    I have to admit though that there are times when I consider not eating meat, like when I realize I'm ripping once living flesh from the leg bone of a chicken with my teeth, or something to that extent. Kind of makes me cringe to think about it every now and then.
     
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    Can't tell if that's a really bad pun or not. :|
     
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    I've mentioned it many times before, but I'll say it again. I'm a vegetarian because I don't feel that it is right to raise an animal just for it to be killed when it gets big enough.

    However, I also don't really care how others live their lives. So don't worry, I'm not going to try and make you all feel guilty like many other vegetarians/vegans do.
     
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    amg bear is delicious. [​IMG]
     
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    Reading through this thread was fun. There are some things I won't say since others have brought them up before in far better worded responses, so I'll stick to what I know/believe on the more recent topic of which animal we choose to eat.

    As other said before, it's a cultural thing mostly, with most societies needing to pick what was available rather than what was 'morally correct'. There is however a factor in how useful the animal is. While some cultures do eat dogs, many others have found them fair more useful training them for various tasks rather than eating them. Horses can pull carts and tools around. Cows might be able to do the same, but horses are far more useful for it.

    This is a fair point, but at the end of the day, it's become crucial to our survival. If we didn't do this, food as we know it would be a lot harder to come by, especially in the cities. Livestock doesn't grow to those numbers naturally, and hunting them would lead to their extinction rather quickly without FIERCE regulation. There's also not enough alternative sources of protein for us to go without either.

    To me, it's far better to raise an animal for the purpose of reproducing and then killing to eat it rather than hunt one from the wild. By doing it ourselves, we do little to disturb the balance of an outside ecosystem. We don't kill children or parents of animals living in the wild, which in turn enable them to live on and carry on their role in the ecosystem, which allows an area to flourish the way nature intended it to. I'd much prefer this than to hunt and potentially destroy what could be a very important ecosystem in the long run.
     
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    We still have canine teeth. I'm an omnivore. I use my teeth for their purposes.

    Also, why we eat pigs:
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    And for those that are Christian, Acts 10:13 - "And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat." God told us to eat animals.
     
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    Thiiiiiiissssss!!!!!!!

    God gave us his creation. Told us we could kill the other animals.
     
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    Well, if it wasn't a fictional story, yes. :p
     
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    It isnt. Though some parts are metaphors.
     
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    I always find it funny how people complain about animals feeling bad before they die which is horrible. But say there's a lion killing a gazelle, the thing won't be dead until the lion brutally rips out all it's organs and does something that will make it cast it's final breath. It's not as quick as rapid butcher's tools. Most animals live a good life on farms before they're harvested for their meat, except for the battery farms, but they're on the decrease/people over exaggerate about the numbers of them.

    As for eating it, we're not sheep, we have sharp teeth at the backs of our gobs for a reason, as well as needing meat to get various proteins you can't substitute exactly the same anywhere else. If predators are allowed meat, so are we, it's not a social issue, it's just nature as was intended. It's called being omnivorous.

    I leave you with this:

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    I actually go to such lengths as shooting small game for meat, it's a nice extra now and again to market bought meat as it's fresher, and might I say more sporting. I've missed before, I will miss again, but when I get it, the animal stood a fair chance, much more so than being born on a farm with it's wings clipped to be sold to a butcher or slaughterhouse, yes? Morally I needn't have bothered, there's plenty more sources out there...
    but here's the thing, screw morals.
    In killing I feel complete, I love my job to death, no matter what it is, if I can break it's neck, suffocate it, or put a final round through it at a couple of centimeters away, I enjoy it, just to hold it in my hands and watch it go over to.. the other side.

    What I do is more humane than the alternative, how I feel about it... well, definitely some questionable ethics there.
     
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    I personally think both methods of obtaining meat should be used. Meat off a cow for people who like that, and meat from a tube for people who don't like eating dead animals.
     
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    I've seen all these PETA videos about the hell known as factory farms. It was laughable how much they were lying and exaggerating. I've been to quite a few farms when I was a kid growing up in Ohio. I saw some sick animals here and there, but most of them seemed pretty happy to me. I'm not going to stop eating meat because a select few people treat farm animals badly.
     
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    99% of farm animals would die if released into the wild.

    PETA wants to release all animals. Suddenly. Extinctions.
     
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    It really can strike a nerve with how stupid they can be. Now I just laugh in their faces. I don't need to explain myself.
     
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    They're against people having pets too.

    Most pets like the way they live. And PETA kills more animals than it saves.
     

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