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  1. ThePoeticPony

    ThePoeticPony Forgetful Pro

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    Meh. All you showed to me was bitterness, huge self-righteousness, grudges, and a generally foul attitude outside of the view of most members on the site. If people could see the private, or even normal chat-logs you've had with some people, I think they'd be a little disgusted.

    It shows a lot to me when in the view of everyone, one thing is said, then outside of their view, the complete opposite is shown. Like how you said on the site or casual staff chat how you understood why I left, then proceeded to act as if I was some kind of coward in a private talk with me. Because you apparently can't leave the staff purely because you don't have the time any more or find some discussions just insufferable to talk in.

    A lot of people I know have been hurt by you at some point, you've manipulated, and argued with those who you think are against you instead of discussing in a civilised way. I know some members have even left because of you, whose names I won't name here in case somebody goes and has a shout at them. I don't see the appeal that people have gotten for you, maybe it's because of how you cover up your bad side from the "public eye" so to speak.

    I wish I could show people the damage you've caused, I really do, but you seem to have gotten them wrapped around your little finger.

    So whatever, I don't hold a grudge, I'm not out for vengeance because god that sounds silly in a situation like this, and still wish you well in the future, but I cannot hold you in the same high esteem everybody else seems to be doing around here.


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  2. Legion

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    Well Poet, at least you're honest.
     
  3. Rarit E

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    There was a time when i thought the exact same thing. In fact, Foxy received several complaints from me about him, but over time i've gotten to know Ramza more than what he claims or shows himself to be. His methods and motives may be questionable, but his dedication to EPR can't be surpassed by anyone.

    I'm more than happy to put Ramza in my friends list despite his numerous imperfections. After all, no one is perfect.
     
  4. ThePoeticPony

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    Originally I was just going to post a pony gif and a positive message, but he wants to know what we think of him from the looks of making this thread, so I've just given my thoughts. I hope he knows some people just don't like other people and can accept this, in my case because he has simply done many dislikeable things.

    I could be super nice just because he's leaving, but it wouldn't feel right for all that's happened.

    Would have loved to do that but he blocked me from Skype because I left the staff. The dedication I'm sorry, seems more just like wanting attention. No offense, but if he didn't want it, a simple leaving thread when he decided to leave would have been more respectable instead of a pre-emptive one too. No-one's perfect, I accept that, but if I'm not shown friendship, I won't try my hardest to give it back to someone who doesn't want it.
     
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  5. Saikyo

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    I can show people the damage I've caused myself.

    Yes, I've hurt people, yes, I've betrayed people, yes, I've done numerous things wrong.

    But as Rarit said, nobody is perfect. And like people have said for years, people can change. Whether you want to believe that or not is entirely up to you.

    I don't blame you for hating/disliking me. I honestly don't, just as I don't blame Dragonbait or Miggy. But the assertion that I'm wrapping everyone around my finger and trying to manipulate them is entirely wrong. Anyone who has talked to me over the past month or two can tell you that.

    I already know the things I've done in the past are wrong. But they are just that: the past. If you can't look past it and choose to only look at the negative sides of things, you will only truly see the negative that may not even be there.

    You haven't made an effort to contact me or try to reconcile with me. Perhaps it is of your own volition. Perhaps it's because you need someone to blame for your own faults and inconsistencies.

    I can't answer that. Only you can.

    If you wanted to talk, you could have always just talked to me. But now you have the wrong image. And I am sorry for that.

    And this is a lie. A blatant one at that. I removed you from Skype. I never blocked you. And not because you left staff, but because you were intentionally not stopping some people in your 'Family Chat' from acting out against me for no reason.

    Or so I thought.
     
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  6. ThePoeticPony

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    I know people can change, I've just seen none of it. Especially since you ceased contact with me. Nothing's changed on the forums so if I can't really go off that either.

    There's only one Ramza I know, and that's the one I've seen from the evidence put in front of me.

    Also inb4 everybody tries to get me to change my opinion with why Ramza's a nice guy. But I'm saying now, until I've seen/experienced this change for myself, I can't look at things another way. I don't want to dislike you Ramza, but I need to see something why I shouldn't for that to happen.
     
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  7. Saikyo

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    The reason people will try to convince you otherwise is because it is true. I have talked to many of the people in this thread personally. They have seen what I am now, and likely have compared it to before.

    You did not make an effort to try to contact me. You didn't even try. Neither has Dragon. Or Miggy.

    If you dislike me as I am now, it's because A. You just don't like me, or B. You haven't made an effort to actually talk to me.

    And frankly, B. is highly unfortunate.


    But if you want to continue this, I'd gladly direct it to PM's since I'd rather there be as little drama as possible.
     
  8. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

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    *noms popcorn*Go on.
     
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    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

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    Im not taking sides. Im just gonna watch the fur and feathers fly..:sigh:
     
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    Okay, you two, take it to private (Ramza, I know you already said to do that). You've both said your piece. Anything more doesn't need to be here.
     
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  13. ThePoeticPony

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    Out of curiosity, who just deleted my post saying I'm not going to argue any more because it would be pointless?...
     
  14. Saikyo

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    I did, Poetic.

    We're just dropping that subject now.
     
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  16. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

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    Running away from the problems rather than facing it?
    Im with Poetic now.
     
  17. Valkyyria

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    Its something between them two sparky and not your concern...
     
  18. ThePoeticPony

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    We've discussed it in private messaging, to be fair it is the proper thing to do in situations like this and probably should have done it sooner.
     
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    And i dont care. I wanna see how this ends. Taking disputes to private only alienates users more.


    I wanna say something but this is most of what i wanna say.
     
  20. Saikyo

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    There is a difference between running away from problems and moving the problem to private so only the people who are involved stay involved instead of dragging people who don't need to be a part of it in.
     
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