Surprisingly not as easy as it should be. Being bisexual, I have a hard time understanding the more "binary" sexualities (homosexual and heterosexual) and due to this I sometimes subconsciously just assume that whomever I like is bisexual as well. This was a while back though and doesn't really happen nearly as often anymore, due in part to me being a bit wiser now, and also due to the fact that I have a boyfriend and don't really have any desire to hit on people anymore unless its out of pure humor/sarcasm. I just have a hard time in general determining someone's sexuality, whether it be gay or straight. I can't really pick up on signs easily. Why does it make you uncomfortable? Any reason? Its no direct threat to you or your well-being.
i know what you mean, im too shy to hit on guys but i give them some looks and sometimes i look at the wrong way to the wrong guy XD
Really? For me it's a little obvious, no offense. Most of the time. When my friend turned out to be gay, I'm not lying, I was shocked. I still don't care, as I mentioned before. I do have a problem if they try to hit on me though. It hasn't happened, mainly because right now I have a girlfriend. It would be more awkward than anything else if that ever happened to me...
@SunBurn I just wanted to say I respect you a lot for the same reasons Dilly Star* and Chapien cited. You came into this thread and honestly admitted to your discomfort with this issue without being a...donkey about it. As someone who has never (to my memory) encountered a situation like this--even with a straight couple!--I'm not sure how I'd react. Knowing me, I'd just avert my gaze awkwardly. I'd feel awkward witnessing romantic PDA between any two persons, no matter the gender. However, to be completely honest, I'd probably be more embarrassed witnessing something like that between two guys or two girls. I'm not sure why, but that's just how it is. Spoiler: COMPLETELY off-topic! Just noticed Paranoid Penguin's cutie mark is the CHALLENGEACCEPTED.png guy. I lol'd. *Ooo, I don't think we've met before, Dilly Star! Um...maybe I should pay more attention to the Introductions subforum??
Males typically find lesbians to be "cute" or acceptable, rather than gay males whom are often deemed revolting for no other purpose than to alienate themselves out of fear. The way I've always thought of it is much like being in love. It's difficult to overcome your fear of rejection and summing up the courage to ask someone out, regardless of gender. Approaching that person (we'll use Middle/High school as an example) is difficult, but it becomes a bit easier once you realize that they could feel the same fears as you. How would you react ind the same situation and would you deem it acceptable? For me, I take virtually everything in strive. One friend describes me as being untrollable as a result of my laid back personality. I tell him it's difficult to have fun and enjoy life when you're bothered by things irrelevant to what matters. I have more friends and we have more fun together with that concept in mind. Rejection is just water under the bridge. I don't have issues with things like watching an ex date someone else so the sexuality boils down to relevance. "Can I be happy with my friend being gay?" Yes, yes I can.
That's what I don't understand. People find lesbians to be more "Cute" and "Acceptable". Why? Because sexual perversion prevails in the minds of men. They would much rather see two females together then two males together. It's disgusting how people treat gay men with downright disrespect, but they find gay women "Cute"? I've seen many lesbians in my lifetime, and I never found them "Cute" as per the perverted definition. I've only seen them be made fun of, hit, or even raped (Except I haven't actually SEEN the ladder) because of their sexuality. It's downright disrespectful to view lesbian women in this way, in fact, it's disrespectful to ANY human being to think of them this way. How sexually perverted do you have to be to find two gays of different genders any different? We're all people, and we should be treated as such; not objects or things that are expendable. There is no difference between gay women or men besides anatomy and brain structure. We are all human beings, and we should all be treated as such, Gay or Straight. End of damn story.
...You, are a genius. I agree entirely with your statement and I don't think I have anything else to input on the matter that could add to what you have written, so I'll just leave this thread by saying thank you so much for posting that and pretty much capturing the thoughts which flood my mind on a daily basis into a logical order. ^^
It's my honest opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with being gay or bi, and the fact that some shows (Degrassi or something or other) demonize being gay or bi really doesn't help at all. I only recently found out that my brother was gay, so my opinions are reaffirmed on this!
I've kind of grown to accept that the vast majority of the male population is filled with biased idiots. It's rather sad, but being a troll makes it fun. :33
Being male has nothing to do with being stupid. And there is a female equivalent of the male find lesbians cute thing, it's called yaoi.
Okay, this may sound totally weird, but sometimes I think I am a girl lesbian trapped in a guy's body. I've kind of considered myself a tomgirl. Just because I don't fit the stereotype, but after seeing so many other guys being able to dawww over ponies, I guess my situation is more normal then I thought. I've just myself bought into stereotypes and started hating my own gender. But so many dudes really are awesome sensitive people.
Its sad how true this is. Gay relationships are pretty much viewed with outright contempt and disgust, and many hurtful things have been said towards me due to my own relationships. I just don't understand it. Its two guys loving each other. Is it really that sick and disgusting? Do I really need to be hated for loving someone? I'm tired of being treated like I'm less of a person than anyone else, because I'm not. I've received hate from a lot of people for being bisexual, including people that are completely accepting of gays yet for some reason not bisexuals. But, I'm getting off topic. Personally, and I don't mean this in the perverted way, I find pretty much every couple cute.
What I meant by "Cute" was desired in a sexual way. It's these type of men that I am apalled at, and make me ashamed to be a man myself. I do as well; as long as the couple aren't abusive, I find any couple cute in the non-perverted way. Too many people end up dead because of LGBT abuse. It's things like this that make me wonder if humanity is doomed from the start to be nothing but a miserable pile of lies and deceit. Saying that people are "Imasculine" or "Feminine" (Even though some are the ladder) when they are gay is incredibly offensive to most people. I know a Homosexual guy who is the most Body-Built guy I have ever seen in my entire life (In Person.). Saying that they are all queeny little boys is incredibly inaccurate.
That's still assuming that you have to be female to like Ponies, which is completely contradictory to the point bronies, or for that matter anyone fighting gender stereotypes, are trying to make.
See, but the thing is, its just two guys loving each other, a chemical and emotional reaction that no one can control. Masculinity, to me, does not matter at all. I'm certainly not masculine, my boyfriend isn't masculine, a good deal of my friends aren't masculine, why be afraid of feminity? Love is love, to me at least.
One thing I think we should understand is our "squick" factor. Squick is that "thing" that makes us uncomfortable or disgusted in sexual related matters. It's set at an early stage in life, maybe as early as seven years of age, definitely by 12. We get our squick factor from - yep - the adults around us. If our parents say something is squicky, we'll develop a squickiness to it. Almost always, this is gay relationships. Why? Well, we've had centuries of religious indoctrination on the evils of gay sex - but not lesbian sex. (In fact, some parts of the bible suggest lesbianism happened.) And some of these people grew up to be doctors, who passed their squickiness as medical fact. Everyone realize that forty years ago, psychiatrist classified homosexuality as a mental disease, right? It takes a lot of work to get over your squick factor, but it can be done. I suppose I was lucky in one way - my parents never talked about sex, so I never developed their squick factors. Although as a side effect, I don't think anything is perverted, except a non-consensual relationship. In a slightly lighter frame of mind, I'll tell you about the first time I got hit on by a guy. I used to live in the San Francisco bay area, and Winter and I often went to the Gay Pride Parade. We loved it! So, we're standing around, watching, and Winter is on the short side, so she kept moving around, trying to find a good place to see. Being taller, I was fine where I was, so I stayed still (she could find me easier if I stayed in the same location). While watching the parade, suddenly this guy started talking to me. And about ten minutes into the conversation, I suddenly think, "Hey! This guy is chatting me up!" It actually felt kind of nice. I mean, it's not often some one - anyone! - finds me interesting enough to talk up. Well, at one point, he asked me if I wanted to come to one of the parties after the parade. I just explained that I came here with some one. He kind of got a bit embarrassed, and said we could both come if we wanted to, and then wandered off. I later found Winter getting chatted up by three women. She always gets hit on more than me - especially when we go to San Francisco.
Wow that was an interesting story. I have the squick.. um let me check your post to spell that right, I have the squick when it comes to homosexual activity and I will become disgusted or avert my eyes, but I don't try to force my views on anypony, it is their right and if seeing men kissing in the street is the result I will fight to the death for their right to do so, because I believe in equal rights for everypony. I mean I have exposed myself to worse, Cupcakes fanfic for example and I have survived, so seeing guys enjoy each other is nothing compared to that. I'm Pro-Gay, despite not being gay myself. I would call my self Pro-Freedom!
I, for one, find male/male couples just as cute as lesbian ones. The allure to me is the love. It's nice to see people happy together with whomever they love. I will say that I find gay (male) porn a bit unusual to me since I don't view that stuff.
