Now, back then, a lot of bronies hated Equestria Girls because of the way it substituted ponies with humans. But me? I hated the way Twilight was unable to bring her friends into the mirror, and so had to cheat on them for their human counterparts just to recover her crown. It was the most irresponsible thing Twilight Sparkle had to do, even if it was to prevent Sunset Shimmer from bending the fabric of reality with the Element of Magic. And now, in Rainbow Rocks, it's happening again. Twilight must once again deliberately abandon her real friends -- the Pony Five -- for the sake of their cheap, humanized rip-offs, but this time to help them win a Battle of the Bands contest against a magical rock band. What do you think?
Yeah that really is the dumbest reason... :v I'm not saying it's a bad reason to hate the movie, but truthfully, i don't let it bother me. Tbh, i don't really like the movies alltogether just because it basically looks like a bad human alternate universe fanfic that the average writer on FiMfiction would think of.
Yeah, that's kinda dumb. I don't see why the humans are cheap ripoffs. What if it was the other way around in the human world?
But at the same time, that stupid fact not only devalued the Mane Five, but also everything Twilight learned about friendship up until the end of Equestria Girls. Seriously, every time there is an adventure arc, Twilight is so much the main focus, that her friends and their individual character-arcs -- Rainbow Dash becoming a Wonderbolt; Rarity becoming a famous fashion designer; Pinkie Pie spreading fun and laughter even during dark, serious times; Applejack's loyalty to her family; Fluttershy becoming more independent while retaining her kindness -- are all rendered meaningless!
Aaaaall right, you hold on just a second here. 1) If you haven't picked up on the idea by now that Twilight is generally the main character for the show when they attempt to segway from 'slice of life' to 'a little bit of adventure', then I'm wondering how much attention you were paying. We're following her exploits when we follow some overarching plot because it seems to have been somewhat hinted at from the beginning. What with being Celestia's pupil, the season two finale and such and such. It's not to devalue the other characters as they're stories seem to dominate the episodes between the set up in episode 1 of a season and the season finale. It's because she's usually a main protagonist but often because she's an audience surrogate. That usually places them as a hero as we learn about what's happening as our heroine does and we can root for her through the turns of the story as if we're experiencing it a little as well. Blah, blah, dramatic tension, blah. This has been established pretty much from day one as Twilight is smart, enabling her to spout off some necessary explanation here and there as well a provide logic for coming up with plans, but Twilight can be quite sheltered. Hence the need to ask things, which is part of her narrative role in the stories that focus on her. It's because of this sheltering we usually get her asking about the big bad magical stuff. Or because of her book learning that she talks about the big bad magical stuff. And big bad magical stuff tends to be within most of the Adventure arcs, as you put it. It's because it seems - to the writers (I think) - that Twilight can lend a little more credence to explaining things about it. Plus, she proves many, many times that she's the most powerful in the group. Even as a unicorn. Big bad magical stuff is usually the best challenge she'll face if they want to get all actiony on us. The other thing is that Twilight is repeatedly shown only to be that powerful by 'The Magic of Friendship'. She's basically powered by her friends and their adoration for her. Their value is pretty big, especially to Twilight, even though the focus is on her. She's our heroine. The character we're meant to be routing for in those segments. As for Equestria Girls, while not the best handled, it appears that the same thing applies. It's almost like Harry Potter in his own series is backed up by his friends and allies to the point where he's in the right position to end the feud between him and Voldemort, except if Hermione was the 'Girl Who Lived' or something. The same thing applies here. Twilight couldn't get anywhere without help. In fact, it pretty much bolsters what she's learned as she now attempts to utilise the knowledge on what her friends could have been. While how effective it was is up for debate, Equestria Girls seems to be a mixture of marketing ploy (hence humanised characters to shift dolls (cynical, sure but we ought to know Hasbro by now)) and a what if tale that Twilight has to attempt to bring what she's learned about friendship to a broken version of her friends. This is not devaluing the rest of the Main Six, this is exploring the dynamic between them and how something very small can utterly ruin a group we've seen work pretty well in the rest of the TV show. You're expected to draw parallels between both all the time, teaching another thing about friendship: infighting can happen easily but it's possible to mend it with one of the elements of harmony: Honesty. The alternate reality gives the opportunity to explore an idea they couldn't readily do within the show as having each character bust up with the rest of the group would be very hard to do without some sort of omnipotent superbeing of chaos and madness. So, Equestria Girls! Well handled? I'm not convinced it is entirely but it's there if you pay attention. Twilight's friends are the main focus for most of the movie, that's her goal. She's just our protagonist, of course we're going to be following her as she solves her friend's problems. 2) This is getting to be a regular theme with you, Pony-Shep. I'll be keeping an eye on you.
I think you need to reevaluate some things. You're taking this all way too seriously. Seriously. I like discussing story and plot holes as much as the next guy but dude! All you've done here is rant and basically yell at everyone else's responses. Sent from my XT1080M using Tapatalk
It was because of her friendships with the mane five that she managed to reunite their equivalents in the mirror world... Had she not had these friendships with her pony friends, she would lack the personal knowledge she needed to bring them together and take out Sunset Shimmer... Sure her pony friends weren't there with her... But without them she wouldn't have had the knowledge and understanding of the true magic of friendship... it's not about the absence of her friends... But the presence of the knowledge gained through their friendship
I went to see Equestria Girls at the theaters with one of my friends. I set my expectations low, and while I could care less about the story, I found the majority movie very entertaining. I`ll be watching Rainbow Rocks in theaters, and I`m even thinking about going to the movie cosplaying as Vinyl Scratch to see if I get any interesting reactions.
I don't think the moms taking their kids will be all that wild about it. Do you remember there being a lot of bronies when you saw the first Equestria Girls? They might get a kick out of it.
I agree. That is a very dumb reason, especially considering the fact that Twilight grew close enough to her human world friends to activate a magical artifact in a world without magic. Not only that, the magic created by their friendship seems to have remained in the human world even after the Element of Magic was removed. Clearly, the human world versions of her friends are just as important to her as her Equestrian friends.
There were around just as many bronies as there were parents taking their kids, but there weren't many people in the theater to begin with. I went to the movie during it's second running, so that may explain the lack of people.
Except, IMO, it had the unintended side-effect of devaluing the Pony Five and throwing them out of the spotlight, thus taking my theory about how useless the Mane Five are compared to Twilight and accentuating it.
"Friendship Is Magic takes place in the land of Equestria, populated by varieties of ponies (including variants of Pegasus and unicorn), along with numbers of other sentient and non-sentient creatures. The central character is Twilight Sparkle, a unicorn mare sent by her mentor Princess Celestia, ruler of Equestria, to the town of Ponyville to study the magic of friendship." -From the Wikipedia article on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic From the very beginning, Twilight Sparkle has been the main protagonist, with the rest of the Mane Six playing the part of deuteragonists. Equestria Girls does not devalue them in any way, because (story-wise) they were never as important as Twilight to begin with.
This hinges on the assumption that the Twilight we see in Rainbow Rocks is the Pony Twilight humanized. I believe this Twilight is the human counterpart of the Pony Twilight. We know all the Ponies have human counterparts on Earth, and Pinkie even mentioned Pony Twilight's human counterpart. And yes, she has wings, but that just means she unlocked her inherent magical powers, just like the rest of the Human Six.
