General Chat Thread 3: This Thread Transcends Titles

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    I drew on paper today, it was weird. I can't Crtl z or any of the hot key stuff I normally use. I tried to resize my eraser.
     
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    I never heard of a program called paper. Got a download link?
     
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    Sorry. No DL. Physical copies only. It's got micro transitions though. Like you can't use the same one over and over once it's full.

    2/10

    manga studio is better.
     
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    Right now I'm one bored pony. By the way does anypony play Guild Wars 2 or Starcraft 2? Those are currently my games du jour.
     
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    I've heard some good things about Guild Wars 2, but sadly play neither.
     
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    That's my favorite program!
    I didn't realize that anybody else was still using it.
     
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    It's a bad program. It can't even zoom probably.
     
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    Zoom is a tricky function to use, and requires additional hardware.

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    Paper is the sims of art programs. Micro transactions for everything. Colors, more brushes, zoom, straight edges. It's all a big scam really.
     
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    Interesting feeling, I wanna collapse, I'm tired and my legs don't really seem to be all that into keeping me up. Only 7 hours of work as well. I didn't want to fight gravity tonight. I can win that fight.
     
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    The only anime opening theme that sounds better in english than it does in japanese.

    [video=youtube;k8lOnow3r7s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8lOnow3r7s[/video]
     
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    I'll admit that the Japanese openings of anime are usually better, but I still prefer dubs for the anime itself.
    Especially for anime like Black Lagoon, where the characters are canonically speaking English to begin with.
     
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    Although I can get why people would prefer the voice acting of the original Japanese, I don't get why some rather snobbishly scoff at those of us who revile subtitles. Not all of us are speed-readers, and it's very distracting to me (and many others who are poor at multitasking, I'd assume) to try and pay attention to what's being said while still being able to appreciate the animation.

    ...Of course, I could probably argue that there's not much worth appreciating in Japanese animation to begin with, given how subpar it often is - endlessly repeating frames and using "speed lines" to give the cheap illusion of motion instead of actually animating motion - but that's just a matter of preference on my part.
     
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    Yeah, but it's also arguable that most Western animation is also pretty sub-par. Compared to the number of cartoons we enjoy - how many have been made to the point of being aired? So many with... even a really low frame count, or unfavorably attempting some sort of story-book feeling.
     
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    The problem is that Japanese anime has made the subpar quality a founding principle of its style. The entire point is to draw as quickly as possible, partially so that the anime can keep up with the manga.

    Western cartoons neither make low-quality speed-drawing part of their culture, nor do they have comics to keep up with. They do not even follow a consistent style, whereas anime is largely interchangeable.

    Also, 3D counts as animation. 3D is used rather sparingly in anime (there are a very few that use it extensively) but is a powerful option to Western animation, as there is no cultural barrier against it.
     
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    If it's a part of their culture though... doesn't it become their par?
     
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    I've never thought of anime as being subpar.
    It's simply a different style than traditional Western animation.
    In the end, the storytelling is what's important.
     
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    I've always thought of the use of speed and dramatic lines in anime as intentional rather than lazy, trying to make the anime feel like you're reading a manga, but with motion.
     

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