Calm down. I like the poster. It's just... it's not really true. To me, at least. Then again, Science is Science! Science is fun fun FUN! Nature is great too! I just wish we could co-exist with it instead of cuttin' it down. ...And I think you need to coooooooooooooooool down. I'm not gonna lead ya down the path of righteousness... I'm gonna lead you down the path that ROCKS. (Anyone who gets the reference gets a rep. Just Saiyan.) So calm down a bit, and PM me later about whatever's goin' on. Also, watch the language, bro. I understand you're passionate about this, bit try to keep the swearing to a minimum. Sounding like Mark Levin does nothing to help your case. ...And I LOVE Mark Levin... ...And Rush Limbaugh. (DON'T KILL ME.)
Uh, yes. I must agree, let's get this back on topic. I had to edit a few posts due to foul language. Let's keep it civil in here, please.
Religion has no place in this thread, I'm afraid. It's usually one of the strongest forces of opposition against gay tolerance. While I respect Flatulent Dwarf's opinion, you basically stated what everything you disliked of the romance nature in the fandom is that makes it "ok". That is: fan. Completely optional and imaginative. It's not for everyone and is intended for those who want to read it. I don't think that particular bite of opinion meshes in with a real life thread, though.
I'm pretty sure a pony with a fifty cal. isn't in keeping with the character of our G rated children's show, either. I apologize for re-derailing a bit, I just wanted to point that out.
The hard part of that is for everyone that says its my right to be this way the other side says they do. Live and let live. People say there's caring and compassion in every fiber of their being. Protecting each other from monsters and evil. But on the inside we are the monsters. So far I haven't agreed with every post but i respect how people feel. And if this thread really upsets people then they have the freedom to not click on it.
I respect everyone's opinion in this thread, I really do, but I have to agree: please keep Religion out of this thread. I'll be blunt about it. Not everyone is the same religion as you. Some people think God accepts and allows homosexuality. You saying being gay is wrong because your religion says so is called forcing your religion upon others which is generally frowned upon, especially here in the United States. I just hate people that think I'm a bad person purely because of my sexual orientation. I'm not. I'm a good person, I like to think. I have never hurt anyone in my life, I always seek to help others regardless of the problem or who they are, I never lie and when I do I admit to it a day or two later, I never steal, so how am I a bad person just because I feel physical and emotional attraction to those of the same sex? That being said, I want this thread to be about supporting and helping gay bronies in need, not to be an open forum to debate what causes Homosexuality or if its right or wrong or any of that. There is a time and a place, and its not here. Can we please keep such debates out of this thread? Please? You have no idea how hurtful it can be just to say "I think being gay is wrong!" when I'm trying to get SUPPORT on accepting my own homosexuality (I still sometimes feel bad about it), and I'm sure its not doing anyone else any favors. Similarly, it doesn't matter how Homosexuality is "caused", and is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Also, I'm pretty sure everyone just agreeing on "I accept homosexuals!" isn't really getting us anywhere, heh. So can we please keep this thread for discussion and support of LGBT-related issues? Please?
Thanks Rain. To reiterate my point: If you want to argue over whether or not being gay is natural or morally "correct", please create a different thread. Thank you.
I'm inclined to agree with Chapien on this one. I have nothing against anyone expressing their opposing views on alternatives to heterosexuality. I'm a proponent of you being able to express your views. However, based on the OP's post, it appears this thread was originally created for support and discussion related to LGBT issues. It wasn't meant to discuss whether you support or don't support the alternative sexualities. I must admit that a lot of us have done that, myself included. So I plead guilty on this one, as my very first post in this thread was more of a discussion, with support as well, but that doesn't excuse the fact that I did it. So, as Chapien has requested, and I agree, I kindly request that we keep religion out of this thread as well as opposing views. NOT because I don't think you are entitled to them. Quite the contrary in fact. You are very much entitled to them and you have every right to express them. However, as I said, that does not appear to be the purpose of this thread, and I'd rather this thread be used for the purposes of support, advice and other discussion related to LGBT issues and not turned into a debate of whether it's right or wrong to be gay, lesbian, bi or transgendered. I find it better to keep religious, political and social debates out of this particular thread. Those typically don't end well. I apologize if this causes any inconvenience, and I thank you in advance for anypony's cooperation. Please do not look at this as me trying to silence you if you don't support those in this thread. I'm not trying to do that at all. I know I'm repeating myself at this point, but I just want to make it perfectly clear that's not the case. It's just that such discussion does not seem appropriate for this particular thread. Thanks again.
Actually, I have no religion. I subscribe to no religion. I think they're all equally full of it, to be completely honest about it. My believe in god is due to a very personal experience that can't be explained logically and there were no witnesses to what happened to me, and I can take a pointed hint. I'll leave it at this: I'm alive because of an intervention that took place in a split second. I did something that I would not normally have done, because I was told to STOP when I normally would have moved. And I was alone at the time. My view on sexual morality predates that event by many, many years. I was not brought up in a religious family and religion played no part whatsoever in my early years. It was what OTHER people did, but not my family. But as far back as I can remember, and that's back to the age of 2 or so, I understood that men and women had a connection between them even though I did not understand what it was until I was about 6 or so. And when exposed to the very idea that there were other "combinations", I thought that it seemed very odd, very wrong, very "This is not how it's supposed to be". And given my age (Someting over 40) I seriously doubt that I'll ever change my opinion on that issue. I'm far too fully formed in my opinions and thought processes. However, despite that, I'm totally cool with people being what they are. I'm not asking anyone to change. I respect our differences even if I don't consider them to be "right". If we all were to decide to not be friends with someone whose point of view was in contrast to our own, on some topic of some personal importance, then I'd imagine that most of us would have very few friends. It's rare to find a friend that you completely agree with on all topics. Tolerance of our differences is fundamental to being a healthy social creature. It doesn't mean that you have to support contrasting points of view, but a reasonable amount of tolerance is good and proper. But...every person has his limits of tolerance. I would certainly not expect any sane person to tolerate psychopathic murderers, rapists, and pedophiles...or politicians. Incidentally, what I'm referring to when I mentioned an agenda is the ongoing attempt on the part of the GLBT community to gain social and legal acceptance up to and including formal acceptance of same-sex unions as equal to traditional heterosexual marriages for all purposes including marriage, insurance, and employment benefit sharing. As for my avatar, that's no .50. That's a Mk 12 Mod 1 SPR. Every realm needs its defenders. Keeping evil at bay so your colts and fillies can play undisturbed is the job of the OC pony you see in my avatar.
And you disagree with something like this because...? On second thought, don't answer that. We've made it abundantly clear that this thread is NOT for debating or arguing. And what you've done is just that.
I can't say I understand it, but I have nothing against gay people. I have always been of the philosophy that if it cause no harm then it can't be wrong. Despite, I believe that then one minority is discriminated, it increases the risk of other minority groups being discriminated against as well, like for example, bronies. Gay and brony tolerance go hand in hand, if the former in tolerated the second one likely is as well. This is why I support gay rights. Hear me ponies, there is no shame in being what you truly are or liking whatever you want, as long as it is harmless to others. This applies for both gays and bronies.
