Love and Hate

You can never truly hate someone. You can only hate what they do.
Love, on the other hand... is completely different.
To me, love is never an "Object". You love someone for who they are, as they do you, and those that treat you the same way they have always treated you, no matter what you or they have done, is what true love is.
Love is a bond, like all relationships, be it nothing more than a friendship, or something more.
It isn't blind, nor is it restricted. (With the exception of age...Yeesh.) Nothing can/should really stand in the way even if it's your parents or religion or whatever.
That's my opinion, anyways.

 

The world revolves around the decisions of those before us.
Some one long ago decided to arbitrarily attached the meanings
Of the abstract concepts of Lave and hatred to the words
Love and Hate.
Just as we have done with other words like dog, religion,
Toothbrush, Pasta, etc.
Ask any person whom knows the word dog to picture or
Describe what the word means,
You will always get more or less the same response.
We are conditioned to think based on a
List of abstract concepts and ideas arbitrarily bound
To sounds, images, feelings.
We think using what we know.
We think by visualizing the image in our head,
And oft by 'hearing' the attached word in our head.

What intrigues me is people whom are both blind and/or deaf since birth.
We cannot assume that they do not think, or think less than us;
That would be a terrible mistake or our parts,
They are capable of thought, emotion, feeling, memory;
Everything we are.
Just they do so in a different way.

So that is where we stand.
Living on the decisions of people before us.
On their decisions.

We too could assign the the concept of Love to a new word;
Say this new word was 'Arph'.
We could imagine that now the word 'Arph',
In English, is synonymous with Love.
If that were the case,
And we would once again ask people to define Arph and Hate,
The result would be the same.

We have mimicked a language.
For no scientific reason, we have assigned a meaning to a sound.
And a series of symbols;
Arbitrary squiggles that we interpret as sound.
Sets of which we interpret as words.

That there is language.

 

That's rather deep now let me ask you a hypothetical: How do you explain color to a blind man? In truth, it's impossible to do so. Technically, yeah you can be literal and call it a pigment that adds to the appearance of surrounding objects, but this is also said in a way that is incomprehensible to the blind man as he has no idea what a pigment even is or even how something without color looks.
My point is, it's impossible to describe a thing we use to describe such as colors or the different tastes, and also love and hate.
Maybe it's because they involve the senses and at the very base of which it's second nature to us and so there really isn't a need to describe it in the first place.
I guess in this case emotions are senses, which is true when you think about it.

 

All hail the Hypnosnail.

Hallowed are thine words, infinite is thine love and tolerance for the ignorance in this word.

Praise be.

 

I think you forgot the sense making organ at home again Dan.

Once again,
I am limited by my lexicon in how I can
Communicate my idea.

What I said was just the gist of what I mean.
Of course we delve into specifics,
But the matter simply is;
I'm trying to make the point that all we know is
Experience, be it our own, or inherited from those before us.

Sure;
Colour blind people see the differently than those around us,
But who is to say all the rest of us see it the same?
Maybe someone sees blue as red, red as yellow, and yellow as blue.
They still see all the colours,
And since we're limited to verbal communication
And can only stir the associations others have to an idea
- Not actually communicate the concept -
That person would never suspect such to be the case.

It's like trying to describe a fruit to someone whom has never eaten it.
You'll never fully succeed until they themselves create that association.
That's how our brains work.
The are simply Databases.
They work by associating a one thing (a key value) with another thing (a stored value).

That is why I look so fondly upon the book Beatrice and Virgil;
It touched upon this very idea.
Communicating something to one whom doesn't know.

 

Can't forget at home when I am at home.

Smarticles.

Also, this amuses me. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, and assumed that was normal.

Giftedness, y u so mentalistic?

 

The concept of differntiating two objects through colors, is very similar to differentiating objects through sound, touch or smell, all things any blind person understand already. You don't need to see colors to understand how those that can use that sense.

 

And yet, we still define things with color. In being unable to experience this part of the definition, the object changes in the mind, and is no longer the same.

 

Yes,
Dan caught my gist here.
We don't need to use colour, touch, shape, size, weight,
Sound, smell, etc. to differentiate Objects in our minds.
But we do.
That is how we think.
We use associative mentality.
You hear see a symbol.
Let's say:
Word.
In your mind, you have an association of what that word
Looks like (in written form) and what it sounds like.
That is associated to the words definition in our mind.
Much the way are love and hate.

My ultimate point is;
Whom was it that made such arbitrary decisions
And pair these words with meanings?

 

So in a nutshell, conditioned response. (Pavlov)

 

I'm berry not Dan

 

O RLY?

Would never have guessed.

 

No, I meant Dan.
I was addressing your point,
Commenting how Dan got my idea.
Maybe I the wording slightly though.

 

Oh, but nothing is the same in anyone's mind, even between those with all their senses, differing past experiences and all that, any simple thing can mean something vastly different.

Also my comment was just a response to Otirrob's comment about it being impossible for the blind to understand color, I'm on my phone so I can't quote properly.

 

Like Zephyr explained, love and hate are hard to describe with words. I do know that when someone is hurt deeply or establish an emotional connection with someone, it can be difficult not to hate just as it's hard to love or not love (depending on that connection). Hatred might be defined as an extreme dislike, but in all actuality, it's not that easy. Love an hate are rooted in the very depth of emotional identity and being. Hatred, if I had to link it to anything, would be pain or displeasure. Love, well... The line between love and hate can be fuzzy. Ever heard of the love-hate relationship?

As for who you are, yes. I absolutely believe love and hate can define you, especially if you let it. If you let it control you, the things that go on you don't talk about and all those inner struggles or love and hate have an outward appearance, whether we believe them to or not. Hatred for a situation, hatred of pain, ect. can sometimes cause us to come across as inconsiderate and the way others see one person are almost always more complicated than those people understand. I wish I could find those models I went through in college communications classes that show the different depths of being. It might be some help. Love and hate, I think, run at the core of being. Say your whole identity and being is an onion. Depending on who is closer or further away from you and love and hate, the onion layers are revealed. However, there are some layers so deep that very few people will get to see.

As such, there are various levels of love an hate. It depends on what's going on, what has been, and what will be.

 

I'd say that they're basically opposite, yet quite similar. True hatred is to prioritize your feelings over yourself, in desire to destroy, to remove, to be rid of. Love is to prioritize your feelings over yourself, to protect and make thrive, no matter the cost.

Of course, that's a rather cliche way to look at it. It fits for me, though,

Also, this is why I like the pony...istic (I've used the term ponyism twice today :V) way. I no matter allow myself to take the effort for hatred. No one has that particular kind of power over me anymore, and now my will can be focused into love.

...

Too bad the one I love is fictional. ;-;

 

Yes!
YES!

A pony who understands!

 

So, in summary, Love is a string of consonants and vowels, as is Hate, and the underlying concepts behind the pointers are flip sides of the same thing, having the same ends, the same methods, but different reasons, yet simultaneously causing each other in equal proportion.

Success GETTO DES!

 

^ You forgot one thing.
They're also stored in a byte array.