Existence vs. Reality

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by Saikyo, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. Saikyo

    Saikyo That One Dog
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    6,119
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Fighting Game Player
    Location:
    FurAffinity
    Well, delve into it now.


    What do you think the difference is between existence and reality? Post your thoughts here.
     
  2. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,135
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Resistance Tech Colt.
    Location:
    Painted World of Ariamis
    Existence = Reality?

    I really dont know.

    They are practically the same thing.
     
  3. Saikyo

    Saikyo That One Dog
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    6,119
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Fighting Game Player
    Location:
    FurAffinity
    Think deeper about it. Existence and reality are two similar in context, but different in meaning.
     
  4. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    I mostly agree with this.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  5. SR20DETDOG

    SR20DETDOG Living an unreal reality
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,066
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was wondering when this thread would pop up :p I don't really have an answer yet though, I'm going to have to think about some more and come back later.
     
  6. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    You guys don't mean matrix stuff do you?

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  7. Zephyr

    Zephyr Retired Team Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2011
    Messages:
    2,876
    Likes Received:
    14
    Existence is a derivative of how we view our surroundings based off of sense and perceptions, and I believe reality is just what it says on the tin; the world and universe itself.

    I think the point that's trying to be made here is how does our perception of reality, or existence, differ from the truth that is reality itself. It's a rather complex question given the fact that complete knowledge of all topics to a full degree will never be achieved and this our perceptions of the universe will be ever changing. Just look back to the 1600's when the colonists were first settling along the eastern coast of northern America for a great example. Back in those days they truly believed that the unsettling forest that stood before them was in fact the devil's final hold against the forces of humanity. Skip forward to the 1800's, Lewis and Clark are in that very territory that was not long ago thought to be a den of absolute evil just on a journey of discovery. Skip forward another 200 or so years, mankind has put a man on the moon; a feat we had once thought to be an impossibility. Since then, we've expanded our knowledge and understanding of the universe around us trumping old beliefs, myths, and legends.

    The point I'm trying to make is, our perception of reality, or existence will be forever changing the more we learn about ourselves and the universe while reality itself will never change, it just is.
     
  8. Saikyo

    Saikyo That One Dog
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    6,119
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Fighting Game Player
    Location:
    FurAffinity
    We have a freakin' winner.
    Someone give this man a cookie.
     
  9. mike406

    mike406 Moderator
    Community Moderator Tech Staff Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2011
    Messages:
    4,855
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    EP's basement
    When I fart, it exists, but I say it isn't real. Is that what you mean?
     
  10. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    This all sounds like your just over thinking everything. What zephyr said, just sounded like a fancy way of saying we learned something.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  11. DanSze

    DanSze Yard Sale Cowboy (on CD)
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,782
    Likes Received:
    29
    Occupation:
    Taking place
    Location:
    The place that is taken
    Both reality and existence are what we perceive. Existence, however, is what we sense, as in see, hear, touch, smell, etc, while reality is our enterpretation of it.

    Thus, between all of us, there is only one existence, and yet everyone has their own reality.

    Another consequence of this is that while existence can not be changed by will alone, only by physical action, reality can be changed only by one's mind, by changing how someone sees the existence.
     
  12. Zephyr

    Zephyr Retired Team Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2011
    Messages:
    2,876
    Likes Received:
    14
    We said literally the same thing with swapped definitions.
    I smell a possible paradox.
     
  13. DanSze

    DanSze Yard Sale Cowboy (on CD)
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,782
    Likes Received:
    29
    Occupation:
    Taking place
    Location:
    The place that is taken
    So basically we use different words for the same thing.

    We need better language.
     
  14. Zephyr

    Zephyr Retired Team Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2011
    Messages:
    2,876
    Likes Received:
    14

    Synonyms!
    Cinnamon!
    Toast crunch.
     
  15. Manehattanite

    Manehattanite A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    348
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Tobacconist
    Location:
    United States
    Some people in this thread use the subjective definition of reality and others use the objective definition of reality. It's sort of up to you as to which you subscribe to. Even if you're wrong, it doesn't change the way you perceive the world around you, kind of like a two-dimensional being trying to perceive a three-dimensional existence. So in short, I don't really care enough to explain much further.
     
  16. LeftEpicBroHoof

    LeftEpicBroHoof A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2011
    Messages:
    284
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    School
    Location:
    Canada
    The only difference between reality and existence, in my mind, is that reality includes everything that has existed, exists, or will exist however, existence only includes the present time. A more interesting topic, in my opinion, would be reality vs perception.
     
  17. DanSze

    DanSze Yard Sale Cowboy (on CD)
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,782
    Likes Received:
    29
    Occupation:
    Taking place
    Location:
    The place that is taken
    Recap:

    We all think the same thing, but have different names for it.

    Because percieved world has been called existance, reality, AND perception, while world has been called both reality and existance as well.

    SUCCESS!
     
  18. greyOne

    greyOne Princess of the Forum
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2011
    Messages:
    3,922
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Code for Hire
    Location:
    Motherland
    Existance:
    Boolean value - Indicative of whether an object
    Is perceived as real within the given reality.

    Reality:
    Perceived Existence -
    A state or context in which when an object is present,
    It exists or is assumed to exist.

    In my mind these are basically one and the same,
    Merely different flavors of such;
    Otherwise at least mutually dependent.
    What is the goal of this thread again?
    (I am not stating in the form of a question that the thread
    Is useless, no. I merely do not see what it can achieve.
    Refer to above post for further details).


    Sent from my iPod touch 4G using Tapatalk
     
    #18 greyOne, Mar 31, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2012
  19. LeftEpicBroHoof

    LeftEpicBroHoof A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2011
    Messages:
    284
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    School
    Location:
    Canada
    I believe the purpose of this thread was suppose to be about how people view the world around us depending on the context we are given for those views.

    Stemmed from this quote which I believe is more of a reality vs perception then an existence vs reality.
     
  20. DanSze

    DanSze Yard Sale Cowboy (on CD)
    Veteran

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Messages:
    3,782
    Likes Received:
    29
    Occupation:
    Taking place
    Location:
    The place that is taken
    we all obviously have different definitions, so Ima just say this thread debates the difference between what is and what we think is.

    I THINK this thread has nothing more to say. That is my reality.

    Whether or not that is or is not, that is up to the future.
     

Share This Page