Fake Mental Disorders

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  1. Vulpine Taco

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    So, I've got something that I need to get off my chest. On the internet, I've noticed an uncountable number of posts on near every social media website imaginable of pictures of people cutting themselves or posting very (grammatically incorrect) paragraphs in order to draw attention to themselves, saying they suffer from depression, bipolarism, or even schizophrenia. As a person who has some depression (don't worry, it's treated!) I feel like all of it is a plea for attention, and that really bothers me, because if this is the way people want to get attention, instead of doing good, that's quite bad for future generations.
     
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    This annoys me too.
    I actually am bipolar, and I have Aspergers.
    I'm also capable of functioning in society, and actively try to better myself.
    I get rather sick of people who used self-diagnosed disorders as an excuse to never try to improve their own lives.
     
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    But here's the rub (and please don't take this the wrong way), but how do we know you're not lying about it too? I'm not calling you a liar. I'm just trying to make a point.

    That's the thing with the internet. You can be whoever you claim to be and you don't have to feel inclined to prove anything to anyone. I'm a 400 foot tall purple platypus-bear with pink horns and silver wings... :p


    My opinion? There's nothing you can do about it.
     
  4. Vulpine Taco

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    We don't know he's not faking it. The difference is, he's not forcing his "misery" onto us or wearing disorders like a badge of honor.
     
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    I understand what you're saying.
    Honestly, you have no way of knowing whether or not I'm telling the truth, and short of posting my medical records, I can't prove it.

    There comes a point where you have to take people at their word, and hope for the best.
    I'm not saying that you should blindly trust people, but if you interact with somebody enough, you eventually get a feel for their personality.

    Personally, I always tell the truth online. Except for when I lie.

    That said, are your wings flight-capable? I imagine that you'd be fairly heavy at four hundred feet.
     
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    I'm wondering if any of them just read about disorders and assume they have them because they display some of the signs. Seems like about every 2-3 years, I'll read about a disorder and I realize that I display some if not all of the signs. I've never been evaluated for any kind of diagnosis in my life but I think I've even posted about my "OCD" on here but I've never had any kind of medical proof to back that up. According to what I read (and I don't forget a lot that I hear or read about this kind of stuff), I could have anything from ADD, OCD, to Aspergers or even High Functioning Autism. Still, NO medical reports to back it up.
     
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    one of my friends had all the signs of the Narcisistic one (I can't remember the exact name) but he's never had any proof... I think what Vulpine is trying to say is when people (particularly on Instagram I find) post photos of themselves or post status saying "I'm so schizophrenic!" When really they have no proof whatsoever... People who claim to have mental disorders to get sympathy or gratification from others... I came across this girl who ran a Doctor Who instagram and she posted more selfies than DW images with captions like "So depressed..." Or "I'm so ugly!" Clearly seeking compliments... I just unfollowed her >_<

    rant over... Sure if you have some signs you might have one of the disorders... But claiming to have them in order to get sympathy or compliments is sick...
     
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    Pretty relevant
    [video=youtube;2m-e4PgiVfM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m-e4PgiVfM[/video]
     
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    Agreed. If you think you have it, see a doctor.
     
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    lol so true. I see this a lot on facebook too, among other things. Also, people think a little stress here and there makes them clinically depressed.

    A few years ago I think I got really "depressed" and wanted to make others feel bad too. Nothing helps a bad mood like spreading it around. Some thought it was a plea for attention, but I'm really not that kind of person, unless I make some sweet ass art or something. That pissy fit behavior came and went within a few months.

    As far as I know I don't have any mental disoNIODNBS! *ahem* sorry about that.
     
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    Someone who is doing wrist-cutting is pretty clearly actually depressed. They're merely a very severe case that needs professional treatment.

    However, I will say this: I'm tired of people self-diagnosing with various autism spectrum disorders as a Get Out Of Responsibility For Your Actions card. I personally know several people who have been professionally diagnosed: all of them are incredibly self-conscious and if anything, too polite and second-guess themselves too frequently.

    Whereas Mr. I've Got Autism just runs around being a jerk without giving a hot damn.
     
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    Anyone who seeks attention by self harming is clearly mentally unstable, but I wouldn't say depressed. As a person who has had problems with Major Depression Disorder I can attest that even when I tried to off myself as a kid i wasn't posting it on myspace (cuz facebook was only for college kids at that time) i was just so young a didn't really know how besides what movie showed. Now I'm not going to try and diagnose others the internet pretends to know too much about individual cases od mental instability. But I usually see that as someone seeking affection. Someone who knows others care for them but feel they can only be dealt with as a victim. The human mind is weird in ways of tramatic stress so everyperson who does it has a different reason entirely. Normally I live by the "never do anything halfway" moto but in this case if they are showcasing there...exploits? Online they knoe that they are happy enough not to take there own life.

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    I'm not sure what bothers me more: people who casually throw around mental illness terms, thus diluting them or people who claim that mental illnesses don't exist. For the record, I have depression, generalized anxiety disorder, and OCD, and I've had people - friends even - tell me that mental illnesses are fake and only used for the pharmaceutical companies to get money. It's one of the most callous and insensitive things that can be said to someone suffering from mental illness.
     
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    I have the first two myself and I've met people with the second. They're only "fake" in that they're invisible, i.e. not traced to obvious anatomical problems - they are very clearly real conditions with real consequences and it sickens me anyone can be stupid enough to deny this.

    One fellow I knew with OCD couldn't stand anything changing. Not even a single graphic on a web site he frequented could change without sending him into hysterics.
     
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    It's definitely not right, but I can see why someone could see them as being fake or believe themselves with out diagnostic check that they have an illness.

    One of the very first doctors I saw told me after diagnosing me with two illnesses, that both are very easily affixed to people as they generally have a large list of symptoms and that for a lot of doctors you only need maybe one or two, whether they actually had it or not. He then told me several other diseases I could also easily be diagnosed for with what I was already showing. Basically he was trying to say a lot of doctors will just look at the surface and tack and easy answer to it. i liked him cause he wouldn't.

    So yeah, doesn't help the matter that even medical professionals kinda aren't treating it as real or serious.
     
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    I believe that faking any kind of mental illness of attention is wrong. I have High Functioning Autism and Dyslexia and I have never wanted to seek attention for it because I'd like to be treated like everyone else.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, did they call it "high-functioning autism" when you were diagnosed, or do they still call it Aspergers?

    It's been a few years since I got diagnosed, and I know that a lot of doctors stopped calling Aspergers a couple years ago.
     
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    My father told me a story recently about a time ten years ago when he went to a school meeting full of parents and the special education department, and about how every parent used the term "Asperger's" except him and so he got to be the only parent with an Autistic child (my youngest brother) in a room full of parents with children on the Autism spectrum. I'm glad the terminology used in those circumstances is starting to change.
     
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    Personally, I prefer the term Aspergers.
    As most people (or at least most Americans) are educated by the media, the term Aspergers brings to mind characters like Will Graham and Sherlock Homes, while the term autism generally brings to mind Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman.

    I'm not fond of people who equate the autism spectrum to mental disability, but it happens more often than you'd think.

    That's why I still use the term Aspergers, even if doctors no longer do so.
     
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    I can understand that, really. I myself often feel frustrated with the cultural associations of Autism.

    EDIT: Also, your avatar makes me happy. Celty Sturluson for life.
     
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