The Zimmerman case.

I can't believe he got off like that.

 

I agree with Ammy here, he wants to be the hero, he gets in trouble. Now a lot of people are missing the fact that his old Myspace account shows that he was self racist, and he has a bad choice of words. And let not forget to mention one tiny detail:


George is part black.

 

I wasn't aware of this.

 

I don't get why this was or even should have been a race issue. A gun control issue maybe, but not a race issue.

Regardless of feelings or bias... he was acquitted by a jury of his peers due to the evidence against him being insufficient. This is a good example of why we have a justice system and why it's important, instead of trying people based on public opinion.

I think it's a bit ridiculous that people go on and on about how Trayvon Martin was unarmed etc, but gloss over the fact that that same unarmed teen attacked and repeatedly slammed this guy's head into the sidewalk...



And now every politician from Florida to Cali is joining in the public outrage... take a guess at whos votes they're trying to get...

 

A man who has his head slammed into the sidewalk doesn't only have minor cuts and bruises.

Truth is, we may never know what happened that night.

 

Maybe the kid wasn't that strong? Or Zimmerman is secretly the Terminator?


Although Zimmerman might go to jail anyway, he got pulled over the other day in Texas (I think Texas) for speeding and he was carrying a loaded pistol which is not registered in Texas (or wherever). Cops tend to frown on that.

 

Or maybe he was lying so he had a reason to say he was shooting in self-defense.

Trayvon was a relatively well-built young man from what has been said by his classmates/neighbours etc. If Trayvon were really pounding someone's head into the pavement, it would have done a lot more damage.


I'll also use myself as an example; as a 7 year old I was being bullied by a 9 year old classmate who was actually rather frail; he shoved my head into iron bars 8 times and I had to get stitches for a 3 inch gash in my head.

Zimmerman had no such injuries that indicated that he was assaulted on the sidewalk or pavement of any kind; it's not just the strength of the individual, it's also the surface of the ground; being pushed onto it repeatedly by a relatively frail person would still have caused considerable damage, especially if it was lasting as long as Zimmerman said it was.


I honestly feel it was a lie concocted by the defense. It makes no sense that Zimmerman would have minor scrapes if he was truly being bashed into the pavement.

 

Yeah, it was from his grandfather I believe.

 

I don't know if this has been said yet, so please forgive me if I sound like a broken record now.

There real problem I have with Zimmerman is this: it is a fact that he was told not to follow Martin yet did so willingly. He ignored warnings and decided to take justice into his own hands where he had no authority. This case has many grey areas but the fact that he chose to follow Martin when he could have stayed behind and been content with having reported it to the police is key. Additionally, he approached Martin after following him. That was not a smart thing to do.

If I broke into someone's house and then shot them and claimed self-defense because they attacked me, I would be in the wrong because I placed myself in that situation. That's an extreme example but Zimmerman did willingly place himself in a dangerous situation. He was the creator of that altercation and I believe he should be punished for that. He was warned and he ignored the warnings. Why do we have warnings signs on roads or warning labels on medicine if not to explicitly state where the liability falls?

I don't consider Zimmerman a murderer and I'm not convinced what he did was a hate crime, but that said he did a bad thing and deserves some punishment for it. I also believe he was overcharged.

 

^^ Can't really argue with that.

 

I have to agree, we have those things for a reason. He chose to ignore them, and he got into a mess. By the way, I like your profile pic. ^^

 

I completely agree with Ridley. My secondary career choice is joining the AFP (Australian Federal Police, which is basically the SWAT, FBI and CIA merged into one police branch.), in which i believe i can make my country and maybe the world a better place. Let's say that someguy or a knife with a crowbar waltzed into your home and is stealing your most valued processions. You find this robber, the robber notices you and decides to attack you.

Then what? Do you make this robber a cup of coffee. No, you dont. You protect what is rightfully yours, be it a family member or priceless family items and memories. Zimmerman is only not guilty, but he's a bloody hero.

Personally, i would have beaten Martin to an inch of his life by snapping his neck like a twig, then called the cops. There are no rules when you are confronted with life or death situations, you don't be a paragon and let people like Martin walk around the streets and allowing them to potentially take another life away. You act in what you believe in, and i believe that Zimmerman did the right thing.


I believe that Killing without a cause is murder, killing with a cause is justice.

 

You are aware that Zimmerman called the police before the incident, and they explicitly told him not to follow him, aren't you? Also, in this scenario, Martin did nothing but buy tea and Skittles. Also, Martin had never killed anyone, so I have no idea what you mean by "take another life away." At worst, he allegedly (i.e. not proven as of now) committed a few burglaries. And to be clear, the incident in question was NOT a burglary, but Martin just walking down the street. You say there are no rules in a life and death situation, and for the most part, I would agree. The thing is, there wouldn't have been a life or death situation if Zimmerman hadn't directly disregarded what the police explicitly told him and stalked Martin in the middle of the night.

You say killing with a cause is justice. But what of causes you don't agree with? Is that still justice? If not, then what makes your word better than theirs?

 

I personally think this (along with the Boston Bombings) are/were overhyped as ****. Stuff like this goes on a LOT and nobody gives a ****, hell, nobody even knew about this until the trial. These are things that could go silently in the local community (and I think they should), but the media broadcasted it across the US like it was someone dropping a nuke. Watch a white guy get shot and nobody give a ****, or a murder in my local community and nobody notice. (Actually, I think there were a couple bodies found in a tree once here just up the road, were ripped apart with spikes in them.)

 

I can agree with you on the Zimmerman case being overhyped, but the Boston Bombings? Hardly. That was a big, flashy mass murder of innocents. That is definitely national news worthy.

 

There were only 3 deaths. Shootings cause more than the Boston Bombing did.

 

No ****, but that's what he pointed out so I counter-argued. There were two people with bombs, who were Russian. We automatically claimed terrorism and went on a massive ****ing manhunt for them. Did we NEED all the damn media attention to make it seem like it was a giant-ass deal? No. The media overplays this sort of thing WAY past what it needs to be.