Applejack's Character

Oh, let me just point out, you don't have to lie to not be honest. Honesty means "Free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere." You could easily not be honest without having to lie.

 

Definition of generousity: Showing a readiness to give more of something, as money or time, than is strictly necessary or expected.

Rarity: I can't come to your party, I have to wash my hair.

Rarity: I can't babysit your twins because I can't be asked.

Wow Rarity, you really are the element of generousity.

 

but being honest all the time dose make you more believable when you do *lie*

 

This thread is getting too angry for my liking.
Ollies outtie.

 

Sorry, my bad.

 

yeah this discussion dose seem to be getting on one or two peoples nerves

 

In a nutshell, she does not want to let her friends down

 

Fair point Wheatles, in regards ot the hoensty thing.

One thing that merits a note: The thing about the angles is that as much as these characters have personalities that pop, they are fairly archetypal-this is why we all know someone like Rainbow Dash or Pinkie Pie or Twilight Sparkle. The dynamic is fairly broad with each of them through some genius amplification through simplification, but by that virtue they don't have many points to them as a character.

The point and goal of this is to ultimately put the viewer in the driver's seat so we experience the show much more fully and feel and learn the things the characters do. This isn't like Burn Notice or Castle or whatever where the point is being enamored by the character, the point of the show is the ideas and experiences they are getting accross. The simpler and more readily identifiable characters turns the tv watching experience into more of a vehicle that actually has an effect on the viewers.

So the nutshell of that all is that-, Yes, Applejack has five points-or better said, a small number undefined-but all the ponies are actually like that. They have to be for what they're trying to do. That's why their traits are also very broad and open-ended with variations, because the amplification through simplification allows for a wide variety of stories(and lessons) to be explored that way.

THe flaw with the stories in this season(I still enjoy it, but it's not as good as Season One) come from the other side of the equation that made it work-the characters bouncing off each other. Let's run with the five number for a second. By that alone, that means that any given character has (accounting for broadness and guesstimating a numerical value to that broadness as, let's say, five) 25 stories to tell. Not a lot there, to be honest. But you introduce another one into the equation and suddenly those 25 are bouncing off of 25 and ultimately cause a story explosion-625 stories Are all of them good, worth telling? Probably not, but it gives you a hell of a lot more than 25. This is all superfluous as it's assigning a concrete fact to an abstract idea, but it gives you an idea.

THe inter-character dynamics were what made the show interesting, and while the second season is still pretty damn good stuff and fun to watch, there's jsut not the same emphasis on conflict created by comparison of character aspects. So if the characters seem weaker in this season, it's because of that principle.

 

1)Conflict. Character Dynamics. Fun times.
2)Situation one:Yesh, but also account she was lying at the time so she could set up Pinkie's birthday party. You know, donating time and energy to make a friend happy and just hiding it.
3)Situation two:....okay, yeah, but to be fair, dealing with young kids is a daunting task in it's own right, particularly when the kids don't speak your language yet. Besides, do also consider that Rarity might have realized from her experience with Sweetie Belle that while she is learning, Rarity may also have realized she's not good around kids, and little babies in particular might drive her into a bad place.
4)A character who just always does the right thing is boring. A character who does the wrong thing for the wrong reason and knows it is interesting and a great tool to facilitate the idea.

And then there's the point of 'not derailing the episode's point and not having time to do it right', which is probably the biggest factor from the baby cakes episodes. Just saying.

 

Their intentions were fine, it was the way they went around it. It was nice enough, but then it just seemed like harrassment. When someone says they don't want to discuss something, no matter how close they are it's common courtesy to respect that. Obviously they were right to considering the truth came out, friendship regained, lesson learned, Dear Princess Celestia blah blah all that, but I just feel that it wasn't really 'nice' (for some reason I can't think of the proper word; I'm so tired).

 

Not "nice" perhaps, but Applejack didn't just leave them, she left her grandmother, her big brother, and her little sister, all of whom were absolutely heartbroken and worried sick over her. If they hadn't persisted after Applejack, it would have been unambiguously wrong, and out-of-character. Common courtesy doesn't have much place in this situation.