Okay… so… as I’m sure most people saw… I didn’t really like the latest episode. In fact, for me, it was the worst of the season. Possibly the worst episode I’ve watched of the whole series. So since I’m constantly surrounded by “controversial” opinions/stuff in general for whatever reason… Maybe an explanation is in order? At least in terms of why I don’t like Discord and I can’t accept his so-called “Reformation” which is pretty much a bold faced lie and he hasn’t reformed at all IMO. So… let’s start at the beginning. When Discord was introduced in Season 2, I actually did like him. He was probably the most interesting villain of them all. But that’s all. I liked him as a villain. Then Season 3 happened. This season seems to be the most controversial of them all from what I’ve seen. Most people don’t seem to like this season. It was okay for me I guess. I overreacted to the revealing of Twilight becoming a princess but that’s not what this is about. “Keep Calm and Flutter On” was the supposed “episode” where Discord was supposed to be reformed. Was he though? He seemed to want Fluttershy as a friend though. Things didn’t get much better after that for me. You can’t expect me to trust him after that. Not after what he did. So I don’t trust him. AT ALL. Plus… that wasn’t really a good episode and there was NO REASON TO REFORM HIM IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Again, IMO. Then, he was pretty much the cause of the Tree of Harmony going berserk in the Season 4 premiere. That’s strike one. Not a great start for some jerk who’s supposed to be “reformed” now is it? Then there was “Three’s a Crowd” The only episode that made this bearable for me was Princess Cadence. THAT’S IT. Discord got his comeuppance at the end of the episode though. HE FAKED BEING SICK. STRIKE TWO. Then there’s the Season 4 finale. OH BOY WHERE DO I BEGIN?! HE HELPED TIREK. Now… I’ll admit he made up for it in the end but the fact of the matter is that HE TURNED ON HIS NOW SUPPOSED “FRIENDS.” STRIKE THREE. AT THIS POINT THEY SHOULD HAVE TURNED HIM BACK TO STONE. Again, IMO. Then we have Season 5. “Keep New Friends But Keep Discord” and now “What About Discord?” In the first one, he got jealous of Fluttershy having another friend. Hell, I trust The Smooze more than I trust Discord. BECAUSE DISCORD CAUSED WHAT SMOOZE DID. Keep him away from jewelry/gold and I bet Smooze would be fine. Just my thinking anyway. Then of course, he made Twilight jealous in the new one ON PURPOSE. Yes she learned something from it, BUT HE STILL DID IT ON PURPOSE. As for the way the new one ending, well, that satisfied me because TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY. STRIKE FOUR. WHY ISN’T HE A STONE STATUE AGAIN? Then there’s how he acts in the comics. I don’t know if anyone else keeps up with those but I do. Now honestly… he’s done some… more interesting things in the comics. He tried to help the CMC get their cutie marks (before Season 5 in Friends Forever issue) and he took Fluttershy and the CMC on a weird adventure through dimensions. The first one almost ended in an apocalypse, luckily the CMC were able to stop that. The second one Discord acted foolishly again and the CMC got kidnapped and weren’t rescued until Fluttershy gave Discord a lecture and he was able to do something to get them rescued. The more recent Friends Forever one was more interesting with Luna. Luna seems to see some of herself (when she turned into Nightmare Moon) in this one and was able to help Discord with his sleep problems. Discord supposedly learned something and even helped Luna pass the time during her nightly duties with playing cards with her. At first, I liked this. Of course it was obvious that on the final page he was even cheating at the cards. Yeah… four strikes in the show. He doesn’t seem to be all that bad in the comics though. I guess? Too bad he doesn’t act like that in the show. So yeah. All in all, I don’t trust Discord and he’s not “reformed” in my eyes nor will he ever be more than likely. Should he be turned back to stone? More than three strikes says yes as do I. Will he? Probably not. Just don’t expect me to like Discord episodes. Ever. Mr. Controversy, LostSanity P.S.: Spoiler
I will say that the comics (and I've read them ALL!!) are neither written nor produced by DHX Media and are therefore not canon. That said, I think the fact that it's not clearly stated where he truly is in his reformation is a product of trying to change a character that has been set in his ways for several millennia. He's still selfish and manipulative and it seems like he knows he NEEDS to change but doesn't really know if he WANTS to. Discord is in a VERY gray area in his overall development. Imagine you are the god of chaos who has NEVER cared about right or wrong and that you have suddenly realized that you have been in the wrong all along. Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm kinda with Ridley on the whole timeline theory of the show; that being that seasons 1-5 take place within about a year of one another. That would mean that instead of it being years from the time Discord was said to have been reformed up to What About Discord (as it has been for the viewers), it may only have been a couple of months in the context of the story. Even some addicts who have been rehabilitated fall off the wagon and relapse sometimes. Discord has a long, hard road ahead of him and, personally, I am looking forward to travelling it with him. Twilight stood up for him against Tirek because she knew it was the right thing to do and even referred to him as a friend. I think all of the mane 6 really do care about having Discord as a friend and turning him to stone, even after the "three strikes" you mentioned, seems to contradict the entire ethos of a show called Friendship is Magic. Good parents don't give up on there kids after they screw up a certain amount of times. If you see true potential in someone you really care about, then no amount of failure should ever cause you to take the easy way out and turn your back on them. That doesn't mean it's always gonna be sunshine and roses between them either but, as the song says, a true true friend helps a friend in need. Who could possibly be in more need than one who has NEVER experienced true friendship and doesn't KNOW how to be a friend because of it?
Most people are better at discussing this than I am. Please just understand that my opinion on this likely won't be changing.
Nah, don't change your opinion because of anything I said. You make a lot of valid points. Just throwing my 2 bits out there too though. I respect you for not bashing others' opinions while expressing yours. Some people could really learn from that.
This is just my thoughts so far: Discord is the God of chaos and as the God of chaos, It stands to reason that he would be chaos personified. And if we bring the chart of alignment into play, Discord can only ever be either chaotic good, chaotic neutral, or chaotic evil and keep in mind that we can't expect the God of chaos to be the shining example of order. He could get better, but I expect reformed Discord to be chaotic good at best. A Discord with a mostly good morality, but with a chaotic core.
Neat. This is probably the most intense and emotional way to voice a distaste for the way a character is written.
Admittedly, I did go a little overboard. I get like that sometimes. I tend to calm down after I vent like I did. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Ayyyy, don't worry about it. I like getting different perspectives on characters, so there's no harm done here.
Some friends can still be dickheads though. I see his reformation more like trying to straighten out a spring. Try that sometime to see what I mean.
There's a miniscule chance my opinion may be changing if a certain 'feeling' I got when S6 started comes true. There's nothing to back it up yet... but... All I can say... Is stay tuned.
