So, legitimate questions - What guns could you have before that you can't have now? Of those guns, what would you use them for? Also, I've discussed enough. Go ahead, be happy doing nothing. Just accept the way things are. Be happy with were we are in the world in gun deaths. http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...15891/the-u-s-is-a-world-leader-in-gun-deaths
Automatic weapons, easily concealed non-metal guns, and most explosive projectile weaponry is banned. Gun-grabbers tend to focus more on making it more difficult and expensive to purchase guns, because apparently making it difficult for law-abiding citizens to obtain guns legally somehow prevents criminals from getting guns illegally. I'm not sure how it works, but I suspect it has something to do with unicorns and pixies. As for what law-abiding (ie nearly all) gun owners would use them for? Probably collecting dust in a display case and an occasion trip to the gun range, not that it's anyone's business. Seriously, I don't get this attitude towards guns. In my entire life, I have never heard of a gun killing an innocent person without somebody there to pull the trigger.
Mostly collecting. I collect blades I probably wouldn't take in public. Doesn't mean I'm gonna go stab up a school. If you've got a perfect solution...
Previous legislation like the National Firearms Act make a rifle with a barrel length under sixteen inches a "short barreled rifle" requiring a $200 federal tax stamp, federal registration, and an extensive background check. Ironically, even Canada, with its strict gun control legislation, does not have a "short barreled rifle" category. And even though those "short barreled rifles" are more easily obtained over there, there aren't any mass shooting rampages or the like as a result of things. Certain cheap handguns known as "Saturday night specials" were prohibited by the Gun Control Act of 1968 if my memory serves me correctly. Full-auto and selective fire guns were required to be put on a federal registry as per the NFA of 1934, but Reagan closed the registry in 1986. Since numerous background checks have proven me to be of sound mind, in addition to having no criminal background, why would the action of someone like me collecting and doing target shooting with such firearms matter? In terms of self-defense, I prefer to focus on handguns (I can conceal and carry them, and I am not going to risk over-penetration by using a rifle to defend myself from an intruder in an apartment complex). However, my rifles and shotguns are used for target shooting/sporting purposes, and they are safely stored when not in use (I have also toyed with the idea of hunting, but time constraints keep getting in the way). I am also a collector. Like the overwhelming majority of gun owners, my firearms are not used for any criminal purposes. I have already exposed this straw man fallacy (which seems to be fused with a false dichotomy fallacy) in terms of "doing nothing" and the like. Additionally, I proved previously that gun violence has been on a downward trajectory in the United States (a trajectory that continued after the ban on "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines ended, I might add). I would also like to add that some of those countries in your source (Mexico, for example) rank higher than the United States in terms of gun deaths, yet they have stringent gun control legislation in place. If banning "high capacity" magazines and such is the solution, why does Mexico rank higher than the US in terms of gun deaths? Additionally, why are we seeing much lower rates of firearm deaths in Switzerland and the Czech Republic, where civilians can readily obtain "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines? Every time this debate comes up (both on these forums and off of them), we end up with no conclusive evidence that can link ownership of "assault weapons" and/or "high capacity" magazines, let alone firearms in general, with violent crime and mass shootings. I am far more interested in addressing things like income inequality, poverty, and lack of access to healthcare (including the mental variant) than I am in scapegoating inanimate objects. Whose method is it that constitutes being caught in an echo chamber this time?
I apologize for helping to derail this thread from focusing on the Orlando Shooting into a gun control debate. But as I do not want to stifle any future discussion on the topic, I've created http://www.everypony.com/threads/gun-control-debates.19099/ for continuing this discussion and any future threads that may bring up gun control. I know I was a part of the derailment and I am sorry. Let us please return focus in this thread to the Orlando Shooting.
my family are very Christian and they said they were being punished by god. this is why Im a Atheist. good bye gay segregation
Yeah, I ran into one of those guys on Monday. Some a-hole standing outside the grocery store yelling about how homosexuality was an abomination, and how the people in Orlando got what they deserved. I asked the cop who was standing nearby if I'd get arrested for punching the guy, and he shrugged and said he'd have to. I did end up exchanging a few words with him. Told him he was making good Christians look bad, and reminded him that "All have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God," and that Jesus himself said "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
This is very sad. I knew a friend who lives at Orlando. I haven't heard from her ever since the shooting happened. I hope she's okay......