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  1. Setzertrancer

    Setzertrancer A Pony Every Pony Should Know
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    I have talked to people in the live stream about this, but I have decided to make a thread about it to get more advice.

    I have become a pretty hardcore brony to the extend that I now write a blog about it and I have decided to theme my computer with ponies. The problem is that this VV is my best friend at the moment, at least my best friend offline.

    [video=youtube;bTvNK3cGTIM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvNK3cGTIM[/video]
    [video=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvNK3cGTIM][/video]

    I am going back to school tomorrow and I will be hanging out with him, if he doesn't completely shun me. He almost without a doubt knows by now that I write a brony Blog. It's going to be an awkward first conversation with him. I convinced him to watch some episodes I don't know how many but I obviously failed to convert him. Anyway any comments about this guy's video and what I should do would be appreciated. The problem is that he is right I did end up becoming obsessed with the show, well more so the community.

    But I'm worried he doesn't get that. I'm worried he thinks I love the show for reasons we would all rather I not mention. I'm straight and I have no sexual fascination with ponies or any other animal at all. I'm not the thing that woman said in that video that makes me want to throw up. I love the show mainly because it is finally cool for me to be in touch with my feminine and childish side, at least among other bronies and I love the music and videos created by the community.

    Anyway I'll be seeing him in a little over 24 hours and I'll let you all know how the conversation went.

    edit: Oh by the way he recently told me he really liked my Pinkie's Lie PMV and has watched it several times.
     
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  2. Derpy Hooves

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    Don't try to be an annoying "Hai guyz, if u don liek poniz ur opinion is totall-e wrong" type of spamarony (pronounced like pepperoni, spell like spam + brony) and your friendship should be totally fine, and in the end that should come first. Just explain why you like them and try to convince him to not be a douche about not liking ponies if he chooses to still not like them, from what I believe you said about him he's not actually a jerk like that IRL (being inflammatory online equals some major views), so he should be understanding.

    You can't convert everyone, so don't try to
    Also note that if he has a friend who doesn't follow the stereotype of 40 year old guy with no job who spams the internet with ponies (that's completely false and the invention of alarmist news media) that can help sway his opinion to the reality of the situation, some guys just like ponies and don't care what that looks like to other people. Now on the other hand if you live up to the stereotypical /b/ attitude of spamming him with ponies and saying his opinion is wrong because he hates ponies then you're only going to validate his discontent.

    The step to understanding is knowing, and if you show him what an actual brony is like then he is one step closer to understanding.
     
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    That's actually the first video I watched when I was looking for reactions to what was a majorly uncomfortable realization for me. The realization that I was... A brony.

    I don't really care for his take on it, and it's pretty obvious the people that were interviewed were of an older generation, -not- the demographic known for embracing new things. The fact that he's a fan of Sponge Bob while hatin' on ponies is a little bit of a silly line to draw.

    Derpy said it best, so I'll just say good luck, and I hope things go well for you.
     
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  4. Setzertrancer

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    I never actually really asked him to watch the show, he did it of his own free will. He was curious after I told him how much I liked it. He also recently told me by a comment on my videos that he really likes my Pinkie's Lie PMV and has watched it several times.

    He actually made that video quite a while ago, I think I had only been into ponies for a few days at the time.

    @Storm, yeah I should probably point out the irony in him liking spongebob. I have never watched spongebob, I was always a snob towards kids show, I think MLP may have changed that attitude.
     
  5. Ciphered

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    Keep in mind that he seems like a complete douche, since a major characteristic of douches is that they criticize and make fun of others for their interests, apparently.

    Honestly, just don't try to shove it up his arse like it's a 20-foot-pole. That dissuades potential bronies.

    Edit: This was my reaction to the video when I saw it:
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  6. DanSze

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    I guess I'm lucky with knowing people, since they all tend to accept bronyism and other "strange" things. However, there's really only one thing to say about this.

    If he accepts you for who you are, that's great, but if he doesn't, then just who the hell does he think you are? You are who you are, and if someone can't take you as you are, then both of you really have to think about what that means.

    Kamina speeches aside, the only thing you can do, really, is try not to be an ass about it and hope for the best, as much as I don't like not being able to do anything about something. Believe in the ponies who made you who you are.
     
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    Another thing, in regards to the video, I find it funny how he asks two random people who probably don't know crap about the Internet or the people that delve into it daily.
    "Undercover pedophiles or pedophiles in training or something"
    1. How is someone a pedo for watching a kids show?
    2. How do you train someone to be a pedophile? Are they like ninjas?
    3. Or something? Ooh, how intelligent of you.
    "No mature sane male human would quit their job to do that"
    No mature human alive would be so immature as to label those adult males as pedophiles because they watch MLP.
    Funny how the woman thinks they are immature yet she's being immature by making assumptions.
     
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    *Sigh* You know what they say, haters gonna hate. I don't mind these lot, I can tolerate them. I hate it, however, when they make sexually-oriented comments about us. Since when did playing some sort of sport make you straight? Same thing with bronies.
     
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    Not a whole lot more that I can contribute, as a lot of valid points have already been made. Just don't force your opinions, let him know if he's forcing his opinions, and all should be well. That video seemed over the top to me, most likely to draw in large amounts of viewers and see what kind of drama he could incite in the comments (really easy to do on YouTube, sadly). I'd be surprised if he was constantly like that all the time, especially with what you've told us about him so far. I do agree that it's silly he likes Spongebob and yet made a video to bash on MLP. Hope your conversation with him went well!
     
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    I loled

    srsly, spongebob is cartoon that target audience are 3-13 year old kids, not older teenagers. right? another fact: spongebob uses same type of humor.
    overall, if he dislikes the show it's his thing, but it's not ok to bash and generalize all bronies for maybe one case (IF it's actually true).
    I'm sure there's some Spongebob fan that maybe got so much into spongobob that he failed at collage/school/job. does that mean that all spongebob fans are like that? no
    well, I have some brony friends, and they have jobs, go to school, go to collage and everything like normal people. one friend from collage who's a brony works full time job to support his family, goes to collage and has gf of his own age, and watches mlp when he has time (1-2 episodes a day) and he really likes the show. now how does that go into stereotype of brony (by guy from the video).
    well me, I'm going to collage (currently on holiday), I have active sport career, study stuff on my own, (currently single but) I'm looking for girlfriend of my own age, and I still like ponies.

    thing is simple: show is great, same as Spongobob, Futurama or Family Guy.
    idk,I don't like Drawn Togeter, but does that give me rights to tell people who like it that they are stereotype of shallow reality show freaks? no, some people like that show, and like that type of humor.
    (also, don't get me started on the Jersey show, Big Brother, and similar shows. I actually know girl who had very bad grades one year in school and even dropped one class because she was watching Big Brother all the time. but that's normal, right?)
     
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    A pedophile in training:

    [video=youtube;4LvlsrtBj4I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LvlsrtBj4I[/video]

    They're some scary stuff
     
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    Everyone has already said everything I was going to. Don't force your views on the guy. If he really doesn't like the show then there is nothing that can be done but to agree to disagree...unless he's actually spreading lies to put us in a bad light without actual evidence, than action should be taken.
     
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    With a huge fan-dom comes a big hate-hood. There's bound to be some people out there hating on everything. Nothing's so perfect to have only a fan-dom. He's not the first to hate on it. He either didn't watch it, or just didn't like it. I think the first's the case, since he went like "MLP!?! really?!?". It is the other way around too. With a huge hate-hood comes a big fan-dom. Do not go like "Oh God, they mostly didn't even watch the show.", because who cares? It's their problem. Ignore, don't tolerate. Better yet, accept. Say to them "Screw you, i have better stuff to do. I know what i like, and what i like is what i like. What you don't like is what you don't like." They most likely judge books by their covers. It's their own Stupidity.
     
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    So he likes the PMV? I don't think you really need to bring it up with him, the seeds have been planted!
     
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    Well, I guess I'm like DanSze in this case. While my friends hate MLP completely they don't care if I watch it and more just deal with it. I can't get any of them to actually like the show though. I had a friend who loved the meme side of MLP for a while. After a while I finally got him to watch episode 1 where he said that he liked it but wouldn't watch it because it's MLP. -.-

    As for your friend, everything I would say has been said. If he truly hates the show and won't touch it then there's nothing you can do about that. But I wouldn't try to force him to like the show. If he truly thinks the things you think he thinks about you (ie "The things we'd rather not mention") then don't bring them up. Just avoid the topic in that case. But if your friend is really going to hate you just because of something you like that he doesn't then I'd say he's not all that great of a friend. In that case I'm not 100% what you should do.
     
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    As just about everypony else has pointed out the irony of him likeing spongebob and dissing the ponies I will take no more of your time pointing out how shallow-minded and wrong that veiwpoint is.

    However I will take the time to say that I DO NOT like being labled as a pedophile because I love ponies. I work with preschoolers (because no i did NOT quit my job for ponies) and for someone to make such a judgemental and sick statement makes me downright angry. The idea of anyone harming any of my preschoolers (or accusing me of doing such a thing) hits me right in my special angry place and makes me want to tear down buildings with my rage to get to anyone who would dare try and harm those precious, innocent little four and five year olds.

    I know haters gonna hate but if it comes to those kinda accusations I'm gonna rage!

    People should really be more careful what kind of accusations they throw around, somepony could get hurt over bridle gossip.
     
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    People believes certain things are off limits to those to grown men, however, personally I love to watch a good cartoon, heck, I haven't seen a decent one in several years.
    I mean MLP:FiM isn't just for girls, even though it's focused around girl ponies, name other cartoons that guys watched that had female main characters.

    well anyways haters gonna hate.
     

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