Love & Tolerate - But where to draw the line?

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  1. DerpyHooves MLP

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    So, as we all know, Love & Tolerate isn't just our motto, it's a life rule, right?
    So then, where do we draw a line on it?
    Personally, if i see a friend of mine in danger because of another person, that's where i draw my line on Toleration. I try to put others in front of me the Large Majority of the time so, i don't care if i'm going to be put in danger for helping a friend out of it. Guess you could call me a voluntary meat shield :derpe: . Love? well. I havent discovered that yet, since i wrote a Derpy Day letter to someone who obviously doesn't like me, but with good intentions, i think we're neutral now, but that's besides the point.
    Since Bronyhood, i have never meant to cause any damage to anyone (physically, mentally and emotionally), but if i did and i was aware that i did, i'd try my absolute hardest to try and make things better.
    So EP,
    Where do you draw your line?


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    I'm certainly not very tolerant for some things, so my line is drawn at about 'Really annoys me'.
     
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    I have ZERO tolerance for haters.
     
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    I draw the line of tolerance at threatening behaviour. I've always hated violence like fighting, always have and always will. Love? Best asking people I know than me myself because I can't judge myself on that.
     
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    I have a pretty vague line. I sometimes find myself drawing the line at people who annoy me but don't stop after I tell them. Also like you said, I don't like fighting but if my friends are getting picked on then I will step in to do something to help. Other times I can love and tolerate to no end. But I think that my line is when someone could get hurt. I've had bad experiences that love and toleration helped me through, other times however drawing the line helped too.

    Love? I love my friends and family and will willingly put myself on the line to help them and protect them, however I still haven't found my special somepony...yet >.>
     
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    I have quite a high tolerance level. I have never really been pushed past it completely (although I do act like I'm angry when I'm not actually THAT angry).

    I guess, physically, I'd draw the line when things get dangerous/life threatening.

    Mentally, I'd draw it at completely offensive. I generally don't mind words, words have never upset me.
     
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    I tolerate, so long as no one is in danger.

    I love, so long as I am shown love.
     
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    It's not that serious a motto, just a warm thing to frame the innocence of the show. It kind of bugs me when people say they've had a philosophical revelation because of the show, or that they need to spread the message or something. If you needed a cartoon show to tell you that it is a beneficial social strategy to be kind to other people, then you likely suffer from serious anti-social behaviors.

    I don't love everyone, as not everyone is deserving of love. If you love everyone you meet, then you do not love anyone. Even Pinkie Pie doesn't love everyone; she just likes frequent and positive social interactions.

    I don't tolerate everyone either. There are many behaviors and ethical codes which exist that are specifically detrimental to my happiness and speculatively detrimental to human existence, and these things should not be tolerated by anyone. There isn't a trophy you get for having a smug sense of moral superiority because you are really too fearful to cast judgement about anyone and play it off as some kind of perverse wisdom.
     
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    What I tolerate depends on the day. On a normal day, I'd tolerate almost anything. On a bad day (for example, a day on which I'm really tired) that lines gonna be low. Really really low.
     
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    "Bronies seem to love and tolerate everyone but themselves." -Unknown

    This truly saddens me that a majority of the brony community is able to tolerate everyone else, but each other. But that's not the point I want to make here.
    I truly try to tolerate all those around me. If someone is a tool, I'll usually mess with them. If someone goes after somebody, I will try my best to help them regardless. There is a difference between forcing yourself to like somebody and simply putting up with them, which I find I do a lot.
    As for love, well, I'm not one to blindly throw that word around casually. However, I do love this community when it's at it's best. So to be the good brony, when I first meet a person or group I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. I believe that when they say "Love and Tolerate" it doesn't mean to literally love, but holds the same meaning as "Love thy neighbor."

    In short, I'll put up with those who annoy me, help those who need it, and do my best to keep myself from hate.
    And even when I'm unable to do that, I'll be damn sure to not let it affect the person.
    That's called tolerance.
     
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    I think we should draw the line at the religious community who says we are born of the devil himself..XD
    .....naaaaah.
    I think this discussion has been nailed already.
     
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    Pretty much this for me. I do, however, struggle constantly with trying to tolerate intolerant people. It's quite the paradoxical conundrum, but few people really get under my skin the way they do.
     
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    Love and Tolerance is the motto everyone should live by! Not. It's fun to use it against trolls and haters, but in the end, it's just that; fun. It's not very healthy to just shrug off all conflict and roll with every punch. I'm able to tolerate opinions and different views (because who's to say I'm anymore right?), but that's about it. Actual physical issues; ranging from simple harm from bullies in school, to the more serious abuse, rape, murder, etc is where of course the line is drawn. "Oh you're a serial killer! Love and Tolerance maaan." Yeah...I don't think so.
     
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    I live by my own moral code.

    There's more to consider than just love and tolerance.
     
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    Yea, that's how I feel too. Love and tolerance is important for some things, but it's far more important to live by your own standards.
     
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    It's because the brony community is comprised of humans like any other. People are quick to hate for trivial things like interests in furry, R34, gore, and anything else dark/mature/abnormal. Some people just like to pretend that everything should be their image of perfect. In my eyes, this community is great in all angles, but very few could share my views. The fandom doesn't always fully comprehend "Love & Tolerate," often times taking it in context loosely, extremely, or not at all.
     
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    One thing I have very little tolerance for is intolerence. I can respect people who have different opinions than me, but if they can't extend the same courtesy, I have a lot of trouble being around them. A good example are the anti-brony crowd. If people watch the show and just genuinely don't like it, I don't mind one little bit. But when people don't even give it a chance and judge those who DO like it, it bugs me, and that applies to most things. I just have a problem tolerating stubborn closed-mindedness.

    I also find it difficult to stand by and do nothing if someone is being harassed (especially if they're a friend). I just feel a need to help. If a friend is in danger, I won't hesitate to throw a punch if necessary.

    But overall, I'm a very laid-back person who tends to get along well with people, and I'm strongly averse to violence by nature.
     
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    "Love and Tolerate" is just a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. The point isn't that you have to tolerate others, the point is that you should, in most situations, choose to be good to other people, even if they refuse to do the same. That's why saying "I will love and tolerate the **** out of you" is so self-contradictory. Of course, if someone is physically hurting someone else, you shouldn't tolerate that! The question is, are you going to help the person being hurt (maybe it's even yourself) because you're angry, or because it's the right thing to do? That's the difference.
     
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    Loving and tolerating is something like what I do at school. The guys in my class are real idiots who think about nothing but sex ad make a noise. I am the nerdy top achiever. I often find myself wanting to give them a good smack because I know I can take them easily except for a few. The only thing is that I have learned to ignore them so essentially they are not really bothering me, So I won't bother them. That is my idea of loving and tolerating (Which by the way isn't just in my bronyism, I follow a similar set of rules in my religion but I won't bring that in here)
     

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