Please help Insane Lugia. [18+]

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  1. Sol

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    Insane Lugia, who has been active in radio chat and Skype, asked me to post this for him. He's having suicidal thoughts, and was wondering if anypony has any advice. Thanks for anypony who puts in their own input in advance.
     
  2. Sol

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    His own words:

    Life is a rough road to live and it's not easy. i know it can be difficult and it can have it's ups and downs but i have had enough of it and now i am pretty much on the verge of suicide. for the last 3 weeks i have been having suicidal thoughts and i have been doing everything i can not to think of it to no prevail. i am not sure when i will commit suicide but all i know is it will be sooner or later. it has gotten to the point to where i have no emotional connection to anybody or care about anything. i dont care about life anymore and i am through with it. i know ending it is not solving but making things worse and i honestly dont care. for them that do know me they know i am a brutally honest person. honesty hurts at times and is not easy to accept. sometimes people think you lie when in fact you are honest and it just hurts every time people do.

    i may seem like i am a really happy person, nice, easy to get along with and caring person. there are 2 truths to that. truth 1 is i am and truth 2 it is also to hide the depression. i have been in and out asylums few years back when i have attempted suicide. the last time i attempted suicide i hid away in an ally and attempted to to end it by putting slits up and down the forearm and across the wrist. when i came to i was told i was i had 7 minuets to live otherwise i would not be here. they said i was really lucky i lived. i do not know why i lived or what made me pull through but i regret ever pulling through to this day. i just have the eager to just vanish so i would no longer be an issue for anybody. i feel like everywhere i go i just cause trouble and end up making others miserable.

    i have another outlook to life and my outlook is the people in the present date may care but fact is in 50 - 80 years from now. there will bot be anybody around to know you even existed. so i see it pointless in continuing on.

    to end this topic i would like to say the name "Insane Lugia" is not just a name but it is actually mu charter. it is like a real life resemblances to me. i have a obsession for Lugia and i often wish i was him, so that's where the charter Insane Lugia in a straight jacket comes from. i'm sure some may find it silly and others can relate. however, for me i do relate to my charter.

    p.s. for them of you that i have upset i did not mean to do so. keep your chin up and stay strong where i couldn't.
     
  3. Manehattanite

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    Contact the police immediately and let professionals handle this situation.

    Unfortunately, your appeal, while well intended, will only result in a meaningless exchange of the game "why don't you..."-"...yes, but" as an exercise for this individual to fulfill his need to draw "rescuers" into his game for him to beat. That is why he is reaching out to strangers on the internet, probably because people in his own life are exhausted with him and don't know how to handle this behavior. He really needs a professional.

    If you don't understand the psychology, none of the above will make sense to you, so if you don't, don't reply. If you do reply with some sort of nonsense drivel, you are simply fulfilling your own game role to be someone's rescuer. That probably doesn't make sense.

    Read up on transactional psychology. This is a fatal game here.
     
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    Lugia, I know you have heard this a billion times before but, suicide is NEVER the answer. Now, I have not been in your position nor do I know whats going through your mind so I can't give you any advise that true means anything. However, I do now something about hiding depression I have done that for years (still sort of do). You just have to talk to someone about it, whether that be a therapist, some sort of support group or even us bronies. But like I said I have never been in your position so I can't really give you any better advice than that. I sincerely hope you find the help you need.
     
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    Oh Lugia.... please, talk to everyone. Think about everyone who would miss you if you were suddenly gone. Everyone here, all your friends, your family. How would you feel if your mother killed herself? If your best friend did? Would you want to put them through the pain that you would feel then?

    Suicide is never the answer. Please call the police, a doctor, a suicide hotline, your friends, talk to your parents.... talk to someone about it. You might not think it would do much, but talking with the people you care about can and will do a great deal to help you. You're a good friend in the short time I've known you, and it'd hurt everyone around you if you killed yourself. I can't think of anyone here who wouldn't be willing to talk to you and help you through this, and if you go on the radio chat I know that they'd be willing to help you too, but I can't stress enough to talk to someone you close to, a parent, a friend or a proffesional.

    I hope you get through this ok, Lugia, I know you're a great guy and I would hate to lose you as a friend like this.
     
  6. Sol

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    As I told you before Lugia, the darkest night comes before the brightest dawn.
     
  7. Frost

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    Manehattenite probably has the best grasp on the situation.

    No matter how much we tell him we care, he won't believe us.
    No matter what we tell him there is to live for, he'll say it's all pointless.
    No matter how much we tell him we've been there before, he'll say my situation is different.

    If you're looking for an excuse to be miserable, you'll find one, and use it to accelerate the spiral into hopelessness and despair.



    The bottom line is, as well-meaning as we may be and as much as we want to help, we cannot do so. He has also tried to commit suicide before and damn near succeeded. Many people who kill themselves try several times before they succeed. He needs professional help from trained therapists and doctors and he needs it now. Call someone, the police if necessary. Get him help.


    ...like right now.
     
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    Lugia, all I can say, is suicide is never the answer.
    It's true, people may not remember you in the future, and life is often cruel.
    But, those who continue through life's trials will certainly be remembed.
    Telling the truth, is a good thing. Why should you care what others think of you, if their beliefs are false?
    Such people, do not deserve your care or attention.
    And, on the subject of emotional attachment. Loneliness is only a temporary thing, and I'm sure in real life you have family, who you care for at least.
    I would consider you a friend, myself. So would everyone else who's talked to you on the radio, or forums.
    We might not be there for you in real life, but we also care.
    I cannot say I've been in your situation before... all I can say, is that life is what you make of it.
    There's no point wasting it with suicide, because of those who don't care, and loneliness, and those who don't matter to you. That would be giving them too much undeserved attention of your own.
    You've been a great guy to talk to, a good friend. I hope you can find a way to overcome your depression.
     
  9. nbunomad

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    i would love to help... but i just got out of a suicidal depression... why does the EPCommunity seem soo depressed lately.
     
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    Aye, Manehattanite is right. Professionals are always the best people to deal with these sorts of situations.
     
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    ho my............that is............very hard..........I agree, the professionals are better whit this things...........but anywhay I need to say the same............Suicide is not the solution.
     
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    Suicide is never and way out. there's always way out of any life situation, and suicide is never an option. Talk to your friends, to your family, to professionals, to people here. I know everyone here is open to help (including me). Life is too valuable to just end it like that. You can make anything you want out of your life, that is, if you're alive. you can have your own family, you could be famous explorer, or maybe race driver, it's never too late to start doing something that makes you happy, but you have to be alive to make it happen. You're not an issue to people, you're alive creature, as well as me, Oprah, Jackie Chan, or any person on this planet. We care about you, and don't want to see you hurt.
     
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    Thank you everybody. i found your suggestions, advice and outlooks to be most helpful.
    i will paralytically check back for future suggestions when i am able to but for now i am going to see what i can do to make things better.

    p.s. 8:15pm sat 10/01/11 made a MLP account otherwise i would had posted this my self. i was too upset to do anything.
     
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    Lugia,

    I've been diagnosed with both depression and anxiety since I was thirteen years old.
    I am a long-term sufferer - that means that, instead of getting the help that I need right away, when my depression flares, I wait, and hope to see if it gets better. When I can no longer take any more, it is then that I get the help that I need. I reached that breaking-point this past spring, and I checked myself into a local hospital.

    I am not sure where you live, or how old you are - but, I do know that you need help. It is for that reason that I'm providing you a link to the hospital that I went to - They were able to help me out alot, and I want for you to receive that same kind-of help as well.
    Here is the main website: Fairview Health Services.
    Here are several, small articles, located within their website, that are about depression and suicide: Depression Affects Your Mind and Body, Depression and the Brain’s Chemical Balance, Depression: Tips to Help Yourself, and Counseling for Depression. In addition, here is Fairview's Emergency Care Page.
    Even though this isn't connected through Fairview, I'm, also, going to link you to the homepage for The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. If you begin to feel suicidal again, one of the options, that you have, is to call this help-line, and talk to them.

    I hope that all of these resources can (and will) help you out. Know that you are not alone in your struggles.
     
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    It really looks like anything helpful I could have said has already been said. All the same, I just wanted to add my voice to the pot, if only so you can hear that there's that one more person out there who cares what happens to you.
     
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    As a sufferer of depression as well, I can only agree totally with RotundReptile's post. Check out those links before doing anything drastic.

    Life is the most precious thing in existence, and throwing that all away is just a waste. Think of how many people really do have it bad, the worst of the worst, then reflect upon your own life. Depression clouds your perspective of things, make you think things are worse than they really are. Look around you before just instantly deciding killing yourself is going to do anything.

    Problems are solved by working at them, not giving up. Life's tough, it is for everyone. It's how you deal with it that's important.
     
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    Life is an energy beyond scientific understanding. It is given as a gift to the soul to breath life in to it. Each life has a purpose weather it be great or small, you are given that gift to use. Use this gift to it's full cycle, life is the one gift that you call - your own, use it to it's full capacity, don't cut short what can be great if let bloom!
     
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    Like everyone else has been saying:

    I've had minor depression clouds back when I was 12/13, only because those were the worst years of my life. I did have 1 slight thought of suicide, but it was almost instantly dropped down. After looking at all the poor sufferers of depression, and the actions they do towards suicide. It's awful.... just awful. But, all that's behind me now. I talked to my friends and family, and they helped me fight through it. Your best bet, like Manehattanite said a while back:

    Talk to your friends, family members, and the people you trust. Doctors, coaches, teachers, anyone who's skilled at handling this. Look into "Anti-Depression" articles, drafts, and sites. RotundReptile posted a few helpful suggestions above, try those as well.

    Remember, "taking the easy way out" is never the way to go...
     
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    Ace_Sorou, I'm not going to quote your post because of how terribly offensive it is.

    If you want to be a jerk to someone, please do it somewhere else. That is not "tough love", that's kicking someone while they're down.

    Insane Lugia, don't you listen to him one bit.
     
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    The idea is to remove oneself from the world and allow others to get along with their lives more easily, people in the same frame of mind believe that they aren't being selfish at all.

    Lots of folks want you to be here Lugia, guy on the last page is a very silly pony and you are vastly cleverer.
     

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