Ponies, christianity, Pinkie Pie and love and tolerance

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  1. Prince Darkmoon

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    Well, as you might know (or not), I am highly intrested in religion, because of this I did a search for "Ponies and Christianity", mainly to see if anyone but me saw FIM as divine, and found a few very intresting articles I would like to share.
    http://taylorramage.wordpress.com/2...le-pony-pinkie-pie-and-christian-stereotypes/
    http://taylorramage.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/christianity-and-my-little-pony-celestia-and-luna/

    I found this extremly intresting, I really like the comparison between Luna and Lucifer and goes hand in hand with my belief that one day even the devil will be redeemed. I always liked Pinkie Pie (cupcakes aside) and agree that she might infact sometimes behave herself like the christian ideal.

    I feel inspired by this, and if I might confess, I recently converted to christianity, because of ponies of all reasons. So I am now a christian egalitarian pantheist.

    I also came across this in my search. http://www.godhatessinners.com/cont...hy-My-Little-Pony-Friendship-is-Magic-is-EVIL

    If this is real I fear for humanity. So remember christian bronies (or any brony for that matter), be more like our sweet ponies and less like these morons. Jesus loves ponies, regardless of what anyone says.
     
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    There are likely to be similarities between religion and ponies. The underlying principle of all religions is (basically) love and tolerance. Both religion and ponies teach good values. As for the second article, I don't think that the writers intended to have those references, but they are interesting interpretations.

    And, personally, I found the last article amusing. Obviously it was either written by a troll or someone who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
     
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    Douglas Adams, amazing author!

    Its a shame he died before he could finish the hitchhikers series himself, funniest series of books i've ever read.
     
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    The first two links were interesting and did have some good points, but I find that a lot like finding the subliminal messages in posters or covers. It's kind of like finding explicit words in Hermione's hair. It may be there when you point it out or draw over it in MS paint, but I certainly don't think it was done on purpose.

    Secondly, the third link has to be a fake. I thought it was genuine until the last bullet. No one can be that hateful, and I don't think even the dumbest people can honestly think their claims have any basis with the amount of evidence this guy shows. (Hint: The evidence he shows is exactly 0) I vote troll.
     
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    comparing religion and ponies on the forums? [​IMG] this could get quite intrresting
     
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    It has to do with religion, so I didn't read it. I try to avoid crossing things like this.

    Anyway that last link is so fake and if not they are missing some good info on why MLP is evil. I could stretch the list on forever.
     
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    The way i see it, there's two types of christians...

    1) The kind that helps people in need, listens to their problems, and genuinly cares for anyone.
    2) The kind that says you're going to hell if you don't pray to Jesus every night or skip church on sundays...


    Only one of those two groups are smiled upon by Santa Christ...
    As far as me being a brony goes, i'm friendly enough towards people, but that doesn't mean i have to be a christian saint. :sigh:


    as for the "godhatessinners" link, please remove it... it makes me sick! :angry:

    They claim to be all christian and religious, but they ban everyone who has a different opinion.

    I once read an article of those same kind of people about how Pokémon was evil. They didn't just ban people with different opinions, they editted the comments of those people to make them more disturbing.

    They're not christians. They're nothing more than a childish and hopelessly brainwashed bunch of idiots. If anything needs to be outlawed, it's them!
     
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    As I've mentioned in a blog post somewhere, I accept religions for moral values, NEVER for worship of deities. EVER.
     
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    Why remove it. It's a joke, that whole site is a joke. No one can be that stupid and if they are.



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    The first two links were very interesting reads. I especially like how they compared Feeling Pinkie Keen to the science vs religion debate. However, I think that many cartoons can have unintentional references in them if you look hard enough. I think that may be the case here. But maybe some writers that write these episodes may be unintentionally pulling from their own beliefs as ideas for episodes. I say unintentionally, because we've all done that. When we write things that are important to us, whether they be a story, or a topic that we really enjoy, we tend to pull from our own ideas and beliefs to support our writings. That's what makes them dynamic and interesting.

    However I question the legitimacy of that third link. I think that's a troll website for spreading hatred and lies. I'd avoid that website completely.
     
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    They're not troll sites. Those people genuinly believe and follow every word they say. You'd be surprised how many crazy communities like that one are out there.

    They ought to be banned from the internet if you ask me...
     
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    Well sure, there was a community like that, that was linked here a few months ago that bashed ponies. A lot of extremists and hateful people go there seriously. But a lot of trolls do to, either to spread more lies or just piss more people off. Regardless, websites like that lowers my faith in humanity every time I find them.
     
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    And i would be more similar to number 1.

    This is quite interesting....
     
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    Seeing as you showed me those links earlier I will admit I enjoyed reading them, the third link, no comment, it's people like that who give a bad name to not only Christianity, but religion in general.

    Anyway, I'll be sure to help you in your journey as much as I can, I know we had a little fight and disagreement, but I forgive you and I hope you forgive me too, we cannot let a few differences get between friends.

    Forgive me? :3

    And yes, I lost a lot of faith in humanity, but as a Christian I have to keep my faith and trust at least some of them will stop that stupidity and do something useful with their lives.
     
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    I don't involve myself in religion anymore, seeing as I don't really mix with any of it, but if Christians are seeing good things in the show, I'm all for it.

    That last link needs to go.....ugh...
     
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    Of course I forgive you silly:grin:.Fights are bound to happen, but they should not get in the way of friendship. In fact, I believe some argument between friends is healthy as long as differences in opinion is respected.

    About that third link, I have seen suggestions of removing it, I get more I will. But you have to realize I posted that for a reason, things like this did play a role in my decision, in fact, I brought it up just to denounce it and have it serve as a example of how not to act. As a community that could provide a good example, just look at us bronies.

    However, the last stepping stone to my conversion, except the wonderful examples of our beloved ponies, was my utter contempt for the hateful bile fanatics preach in the name of Christ. I feel this is heavily misrepresenting his actual teachings, which I feel are more akin to the message of FIM and love and tolerance. I am very much aware a religious message was never the intent of it's creators, nevertheless it has a wonderful message. It also made me realize science and religion are not mutually exclusive, the very idea of religion vs science is bogus. I want speak out against this division, and make people realize, that regardless of our differences, we are all human and deserve to exist.

    By the way, also saw another article. Which was so stupid it claimed MLP is satanic because the name of it's creator is Faust:DFH:, then he proceeded to claim unicorns are real because the bible says so:DFH::DFH:.
     
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    People will believe in what they want to, whether it's logically, morally sound, or even completely unreasonable.

    There was a thread a while back linking to a forums that cried that FiM was a great blasphemy and evil, and that all of its followers needed to be punished, blah blah blah. And yet, there were people who believed.

    Ponies being linked to religion is probably just drawing comparisons. You can do that to a great many things. It just depends on how much you generalize each to draw these comparisons.

    I'm an atheist and I don't fear what others believe in. As I tell my friends, "It's whatever."
     
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    Baaaaad time to be a Christian. We all get tarred with the same brush no matter who we are or how we've been raised. There's a lot I could say in this discussion, but I've said it all a million times before, and there's always people who try to sway me from my faith by convincing me everything I believe in is a lie. All I know is, I go to church, dress up nice, have some tea and biscuits with some lovely old people, then go home after some singing and service. No-one is shunned out, not gays or anypony else who you may believe gets isolated from Christianity. And no-one is ever, ever, told they will burn in hell for their sins.

    Thanks, but no thanks.
     
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    The irony of the last link is God doesnt hate anyone.He doesnt want to send people to hell either.He only does it because it was ,in a way.Their choice.They chose not to believe.
     
  20. Prince Darkmoon

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    This is what I am trying to say, christianity has been hugely misrepresented to many, and this needs to change. For the record, I am pro gay and could not see my God shunning anyone.

    That's ok, I do not believe in hell either. I think fear is a bad motivation to get anyone to do anything.
     
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    I have to say, I'm still laughing at that last link. The author never once actually gave any clear evidence as to what they were talking about. And the bit about women's place in society made fall over laughing. These types of people do give a bad name to christianity, but as a former Christian I know that not every christian thinks this way.

    The first two links, however, were very interesting. Though they're a bit of a stretch, the points they make are pretty solid. Still, as both they and Lauren Faust have said, any religious undertones are non-intentional, so it's still pretty hard to draw those conclusions.
     
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