Raising the (American) Minimum Wage

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  1. Snow

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    Hey guys, this one is more directed at the Americans of the site, do you think the minimum wage should be raised from its current $7.25 to let's say $9.00? Why or why not?
     
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    That would be incredibly nice. There would be benefits and problems, but the only way I could see it happening as a response to some form of inflation.
     
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    I'd prefer them to implement a living wage.

    I'd speak more on the matter but I'm not too keen on economics and I'd rather not risk making myself look like a dolt by acting like I'm knowledgeable on a topic I'm clearly not.
     
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  5. Frost

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    On one hoof raising the minumum wage would help many lower income people deal with rising living costs, which would help them pay their bills and give them incentive to spend more money, putting more money back into the economy.

    On the other, it would raise the payroll, benefits, unemployment, insurance and taxes costs for many businesses, further hampering the economy.


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    Nothings gonna happen until Obama opens his damn eyes and works on mental care instead of gun control.

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    Obama's not in control of law-making. Besides, the topic of the thread is not mental health or gun control. It's minimum wage.

    My view is pretty much Frost's.

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  8. Frost

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    Yeah, the topic is minimum wage...
     
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    Um Sunburn, I believe that you do not realize that companies are moving back to the US? Wanna know why? Because, the labor is getting more expensive, the cost of transportation is getting even more expensive(Have you SEEN the recent international shipping fees?), and American workers are, on average, at least a few times more productive than elsewhere. Also, most of those jobs aren't minimum wage, they probably pay around 10 dollars an hour, depending on the union in the place, or the company itself. Also, most minimum wage workers are in things like the service industry, and that's when they are just getting started. Besides, most professions don't pay by the hour, they pay by salary, which wouldn't be affected by a minimum wage raise, and I have one final point, by increasing the spending power of the lowest ranks of our society, we directly increase the amount of money spent into the economy, and the American economy is more than 80% based on consumer spending.
     
  10. Frost

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    Actually, most professionals are not paid by salary. Administrators and executives are paid salary.

    Union jobs make much more than $10 an hour.

    Minimum wage applies to much more than the service industry, although they prolly are the majority yes.
     
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    Alright, so I stand corrected, thank you
     
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    I truly believe that there is only one thing we, as Americans, can do to better our economy: get rid of the Federal Reserve.

    Here's a relevant link you folks should investigate. I'm not sure what to think of it: http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/facts/entry/amount-with-inflation/

    That was both irrelevant and ignorant (if I'm interpreting your statement correctly).
     
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    No. Do you really think that Congress will be hearing anything else? It is relevant. Get your news.

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    It is completely irrelvant to this conversation about minimum wage, not gun control. Also the president does not make laws, read the Constitution, all the president is a military commander and a foreign representative
     
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    Let's stay on the topic of minimum wage, yeah?

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  16. Frost

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    He's really not even the military commander...


    Anyway, congress has got jack to do with this minimum wage issue there buddy, so it doesn't matter what they will or won't be hearing. The minimum wage bill is going to be put to a public vote, so it is now up to us to decide whether or not it should pass.
     
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    You didn't say "Congress." You said "Obama."

    Allow me to explain my criticism of your comment:

    As someone who lives in the State where Barack Obama was first elected to his Senate seat, it just so happens that news regarding Obama is something I follow. I have "got my news." Which happens to be why I'm aware that healthcare has been a staple issue for Obama since his first election. It came up again this election, and Obamacare will continue to be a point of contention for quite some time. If you say that Obama has not paid enough attention to healthcare you are wrong: plain and simple.

    The premise for your argument is twofold: that Congress cannot review more than one issue at once, and that either gun control or mental care can be enhanced but not both. Obviously Congress can review more than one issue: that is what they have been doing for a very long time. Therefore, the first premise is flawed. The second premise is a classic example of False Dichotomy and is also flawed.
     
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    I live in Oregon, where the minimum wage is much higher than the national average. As a result, I have seen firsthand just how little good raising the minimum wage would do.

    Increasing the minimum wage would only be a band-aid on the gaping wound of the economy.
     
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    [video=youtube;0iZOmjLrFMs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0iZOmjLrFMs[/video]

    The real problem with the economy that we have to take care of is the Federal reserve.

    Watch this video to get a comprehension of what I mean.
     
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    Hey! I know that video! I'd call this a coincidence because I have that video already favorited on Youtube, but it really isn't since you were the one who showed me that video the first time.

    I agree 100%, by the way.
     

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