I really want to say something as amazing as that in response to this but I'm at a lack of words. I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying here and have had my own problems dealing with people bashing other religions (Or at least that's what I think you're slightly pointing at among other things.) In my own faith, Unitarian Universalism, I believe in complete religious, ethnically, sexual, and world equality, so this subject is something I fight for in my own. I also consider myself to be part Quaker, which I get a lot of jokes made at my expense because of that. To say that a certain religion is something that strongly opposes something else is intolerant towards that religion in a way, even if a lot of that religion does oppose it. Not everyone is a like even if they share the same religion
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. There's nothing wrong so far, but there's a potential for trouble I'd like all to be wary of, but I like to hope we're above this. Feel free to debate, that was a good insightful read and I hope this sparks a good, meaningful debate.
I feel like people really diss Christianity for poor reasons now, not all of them are bad and they generally have better morals than most people do.
Must not debate in this thread, ah to heck with it. Ok just so you all know I follow my own kind of made up religion, not sure if this seems weird to the rest of you. If you want me to go into more detail then let me know, I just don't want to talk about it if others don't want to hear it.
Like I said, as a Unitarian I listen and respect all religions, Don't be afraid to talk about your own. Let's here it.
I really hope you're correct about everyone being above this, it'll really disappoint me if this community fails in this aspect.
Since at least two people are interested I guess I will go ahead with it. I am pantheistic, in short I have a whole host of what I dean as "Lords" rather than gods, this has it's origins from Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k. Now I know that these are made up for the games and books in both sections but they some how make more sense to me then the religions in real life. So I decided to accept them as my religion, even if it may seem weird to some. This does not mean I hate the other religions in the world or the people that are within those religions, it just means I'm different from everyone else. Well there it is for all to see, sorry if this confuses you in any way.
It makes sense to me, and most importantly it makes sense to you. It seems like a very plausible religion. If you're passionate about it, then it's yours to believe in. I once was a Haruhist, believing in Haruhi Suzumiya as the one and only God.
The very concept of liberalism tied to religion amuses me, and the logic in OP, while somewhat absurd, does tie in with the problems that two 'opposing', beliefs have. People tend to see the worst, the most extreme in whatever it is they can not fathom the concept behind. As such, the people against Darwinism portray them as nazis who would slaughter the weak to make humanity stronger, and catholics are portrayed by antitheists (Not atheists, since that is too broad a term) as bigoted, hypocritical elitists who would use the supposed ignorance of others to take their earnings away. This is why people see in fascism the Nazi regime, although the Nazi philosophy is more of an elitist nationalistic version of Darwinism, and in communism see the Soviet version of socialism, which too is a different concept. In the end, one can not make a judgement on the belief of others, for only what one thinks to be true will make sense, and the rest will seem to be complete balderdash, to be the writings of a raving lunatic who knows not how the world works. This is why I follow my own path, one forged from learning the teachings of many and the conjectures of my own mind and bludgeoning it until it took the shape it looked right in.
I have no quarrels With any religion out there; Given that they do not infringe upon Anyone else's human rights, And they do not force their opinion Upon anyone unwilling or of different opinion. In an idealistic scenario with those Given circumstances, I see no problems at all. Those wishing to practice a religion should Be at complete liberty to do so; So long as they to not forget, Others have liberties as well. I'm not trying to argue a point here, Or point fingers at anyone either. I'm just saying: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights exists. My 2 cents on the matter.
Nobody knows how the universe was made, nobody knows if there's a god or not, so nobody can say they're religion is right nor not. It's personal belief. I don't agree with how religions are made into some sort of sect or organization, that has nothing to do with belief in a deity or anything personal. I also don't see the point in certain religious practices, such as refraining from eating beef purely because of religious reasons (as in the animal not being 'clean', not for ethical and/or medical reasons). Bottom line, make your own decision. It doesn't matter, nobody, including yourself, can ever say you're right or wrong. I just don't like it when people are religious for reasons such as tradition. Don't accept there's a god if you don't honestly believe it yourself. Your choice. I'm an agnostic athiest. I don't believe there's a god, but that's only because I doubt it. My belief in a god can be summed up by Russell's Teapot, which basically states just because you can't prove something doesn't exist when there is no logical evidence to support it does, it doesn't mean you should. I can't prove my sister's not a ninja trying to kill me, but that doesn't mean I'm going to punch her in the face when she's sleeping just to be sure. I do that anyway. Kidding, but seriously, I see little to no evidence for the existence of one, and I also theorize that the idea that one exists stems from prebiblical civilisations looking for a reason for the natural phenomena occuring around them without scientific explanations. Am I right? Is there a god because there's no proof? Nobody will ever know, so does it matter? No. It doesn't. I fully accept I could be wrong about God, heaven, all that jazz. But it's my beliefe, and nothing more. As for religions teaching you how to be a better person, that should be a universally applicable trait. It's my 'religion' to be happy, make others happy, and generally be a nice guy. If you want to point out the fact that I don't believe in a god to call me a heathen or whatever, fine. I can deal with that. In the end, it's like sexuality. It doesn't matter so there's no reason to care what I believe in. Theism or athiesm, there's no need to shove your beliefs in other people's faces, as it's their choice to make, not yours. Believe there's a god, believe there isn't, believe that Celestia is real and is the one true creator it really doesn't matter. Just be a nice person, it's all you need to worry about.
I just think Christianity is slowly becoming one of those things where you'll be frowned down upon by general populace for partaking in it, it'll be a sad day if that happens, methinks. :derpe:
Religion is 90% of the problem in most major conflicts not involving politics. Ultimate example, Israel n' Pakistan. Look at that, would ya? I'm a Protestant, have been since I was 6 years old. And I hate religion, dammit. Science has always made more sense to me, but I believe in a so-called "higher power". Sure, I've got my doubts, as does all but the most religious of people. I hate it when people come to my house every Saturday and says to me "Come to Church A! Be safe from Hell!" Please, Let them come to us, not go on a non-violent Crusade. OH man, all of these Deadpoolicious Threads are popping up, so much to say, so much to think about, ooooooh, it pushes my buttons! @Lupr: I was going to say something witty, but then I saw Ninja. And now I have to say it. ...Katana-Rama, baby.
My familie's protestant as well, but we try not to force our beliefs down anyone's throat unless they ask about it. :derpe:
