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  1. Yetione

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    well, since I'm in computer engineering bug is most appropriate word for these.
    so bugs I found in story:
    1. Prince Blueblood's origins (as I call it): well, we all know that Luna is Celestia's sister, right?
    but we also know that Blueblood is Celestia's Nephew, right. As far as we know Luna is Celestia's only sibling.
    but Luna was on moon for 1000 years, therefore she couldn't have kids. Even if she did have kids on moon, her kid(s) couldn't get back to Earth, if they could, Luna would probably come with them, and Blublood was on Earth before Luna come back because Rarity knew for him, but didn't know for Luna.
    so, question is:who are Blueblood's parents (or at least one of them)?

    2. Pinkie Pie paradox (as I call it): in episode "Friendship is magic part 2" (aka episode 2), in her song she said that her gandmom (Granny Pie) told her to laugh when she was afraid of dark. But on episode "The Cutie Mark Crusedors Chronicles" she says that she laughed (smiled) when she saw rainbow from Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom. Which would mean that her song that she was taught laughing by her grandmom (by some logic before she saw Sonic Rainboom) have no sense. So question is: when, why and where did Pinkie Pie start to laugh really?
     
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    1. Blueblood maybe the son of a spouse's sibling, but I don't think either of the Princesses are married. It was never mentioned. OR he might be like an adopted family sort of deal. I have a TON of cousins that aren't related to me at all. not even generations back.

    2. She discovered smiling and partying in the Rainboom episode, but never quite got the "laughing" down. OR her grandma just taught her how to laugh away her fears, which usually impeded her laughter.


    What do you think?
     
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    The first part, Lauren explain this quite well. It's her (Celestia/Luna) mother's sister's great-(x53)-grandson.
     
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    Question 1: Y'know... that's the same question that popped into my mind when I first heard of him. I was like; "Where could this guy have even come from?!" I don't think he's adopted. I think he'd probably be blood-related somehow. Though we also don't know much about him. We have unanswered questions that would greatly help us understand this. Like, how old is he? Luna and Celestia pretty much carry immortal blood as far as I can tell. They are almost God-like entities in that world. And they don't seem to age at all. Though that in itself is confusing in ways. But that's partially another topic too. Anyway, yeah, they don't seem to age and thus they live forever. At least it seems. So is Prince Blueblood also immortal? Does he age or live forever? He doesn't strike me as an immortal though. He strikes me as just another pony. He doesn't look anything like Luna. If anything, he looks more like Celestia with that white coat and all. Only plausible explanation I can come up with is perhaps there's more family than just Luna and Celestia. One's perhaps we simply don't know about. But then again, you'd expect the whole family to be immortal with the both of them being such. It gets confusing and I don't think they really thought it out a ton beforehand like we are. lol They simply said; "There needs to be a Prince somewhere in here". And that was that. Fill in the gaps later perhaps, if ever.

    Question 2: That's a good catch I didn't notice. Well, one issue with this is, we don't know which happened first. Though if I had to take a guess, I'd say her grandmother telling her to laugh to get rid of fears was first. I'd say that happened pretty early on in her childhood. When she was quite little. Even earlier than the Sonic Rainboom. Though I could be wrong, which would make more sense from logistics of the story anyway. Perhaps she could laugh a bit to help her cope with things that frightened her, but she still wasn't near the Pinkie she is now until the Sonic Rainboom happened. My take would be that she wasn't so depressed that she couldn't smile a little to help cope with things that go bump in the night. But she didn't REALLY become the happy-go-lucky partier she became until that faithful day.

    Really though. As older fans of a children's show, we tend to be more logical and rational with our thinking than the creators intended to make the show seem. Since the kids who watch it obviously aren't probably going to think of questions like these when they watch it. :p We find plot holes and such that the writers didn't think about because they didn't intend on having to seal up any possible cracks with an audience probably in the 5-12 year old range. lol But these are fun things to ponder over in any case.

    Edit: Lauren already explained the first question herself? Ah, well, nevermind then. Guess I was partially right at least. XD
     
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    oh well, I didn't know that Laurent Fuast explained first one, and then it has some logic.
    on second one. well as I git massage in story, Pinkie was one that brought laughter to her family, but obviously her gandmom was familiar to laughing before she was even born. so she would bring laughing to family first.
    and yes, probably producers didn't think fans would dig these much into the story lol
     
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    Well, consider how many grandparents are. In their older age, they tend to be nice, caring and sweet. Especially to their grandchildren. I don't think Pinkie's family was all doom and gloom. Not totally anyway. I just think things were kinda dreary for them most of the time. The Amish (which is what they're intended to replicate of course) are very hard workers, and they work a lot. It tends to take a lot out of you and it doesn't leave tons of time for fun. Especially from Pinkie's perspective, being a little filly and all. But they still knew how to smile. Her grandmother was probably a sweet old mare who was just trying to get Pinkie to be happy instead of scared. I can see most grandparents using that exact tactic on their grandchildren in that situation.
     
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    2. She learned to laugh. Her granny taught her to laugh at stuff that is scary. She laughed at a rainbow, and as far as there is to my knowledge Rainbow's aren't scary. Maybe Granny Pie saw that Pinkie's strongest side is her laughter, so she taught her to use her laughter against stuff that are scary. There's a lot of ways to solve stuff, it is, after all, not a videogame - therefore, in real life (or their life), there's an infinite ways to solve a single problem - maybe Fluttershy's way to solve such a case is her Stare or her Cuteness, maybe Twilight, as a big of a genius she is, would use her knowledge and know how a certain scary moment is to deal with, etc for the rest.
     
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    What Jaret said or, maybe, it's the fact that two different writers wrote the two episodes, and that could've caused an accidental plot hole that bronies picked up.
     
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    Isn't that the whole point to thinking of solutions to things like these? To form headcanon excuses for accidental plot holes? :p




    As for the pinkie pie thing, what if it was her other grandmother? Most people have two sets of grandparents, one for each of their parents.
     
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    If there's one thing i've learned is that when it comes to Pinkie Pie, just don't bother trying to figure it out :grin:
     
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    Basically, this. Pinkies gon' Pink.
     
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