Supreme Court Upholds the San Francisco court's decision

My sister-in-law was telling me about this earlier today, I actually don't really have anything to add though, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly with,

 

At least something positive is happening. ^^

Now if only the other states would wise up....

 

We've still got a long way to go...

 

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

I hope you all are wearing comfortable shoes.

 

ha ha HA! With Prop 8 and that despicable DOMA now dead, those silly Republicans hsve been making statements. Let's see what we have here:


Many Republicans stayed silent but more decried the Supreme Court’s ruling in the starkest of terms.

“Jesus wept,” former Arkansas Gov. and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee wrote on Twitter."

Conservative firebrand Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., added: “Marriage was created by the hand of God. No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted.”

Rep. Tim Walberg, R-Mich., warned the ruling put “society itself … at risk.”



Oh yes, society ITSELF! Society is now at risk to actually be pleasant for once. All this whining is delicious.

 

I bet this is the excuse for the fiasco in Texas this morning too, except in the context of abortion instead of marriage.

We need to push the red button on this government, for real. The sooner the better. The fact that these people have any support at all is a problem.

 

As someone with friends in California, I am really glad that this got sorted out finally; and as a former resident of Massachusetts, I'm glad people back home finally have federal benefits on top of state recognition... but as a current, gay, resident of Virginia... I hope more action is on the way for the 32 states that didn't get anything out of today's decisions. Fortunately, my partner and I are healthy and on track to be in a decent income brackets, but it's still a huge inconvenience not being able to enjoy any legal protections if one of us did get sick, and havign a much larger chunk of our income taken out as two "single" people in the eyes of the state.

so yea... I really am happy for everyone that won today... i just hope the rest of us don't get left behind.

 

I don't see why republicans hate this ruling. They should like it, normally republicans believe the man should be the one bringing money into the house, so 2 men being married is perfect. And they can never get abortions. Gay marriage is perfect for republicans.

 

Wow. I never thought of that.

 

God never made marriage, it was something that came up long after,

"It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve". Lolokay, Adam and Eve were never married.

I have two pairs of Vibram fivefingers, I'm set.

Probably not as long as people think, we're getting closer.

 

To quote George Carlin: "They're against abortions and they're against homosexuals. Well who has less abortions than homosexuals? You'd think they'd be natural allies. Here's an entire group of people guaranteed never to have an abortion and the conservatives are just tossing them aside!"

On a related note, aren't Republicans supposed to be in favor of individual liberty?

 

And also "the government staying out of our business"?
The current ideology in power of the Republican party is packed with ironies, but anyways, I kinda expected this ruling to be honest..

 

This was actually the most conservative ruling that could of happened; All they did was throw out the California case without deciding on any of the arguments saying the anti-marriage party had no grounds to even be there in the first place (legal technicality)... and then in the DOMA case they didn't even strike down DOMA, they just removed 1 sentence from the law, applying to people in state with same-sex marriage already recognized. So at the end of the day yea it was great for people in only 13 states, but it did nothing about the other 37.

 

Gotta start somewhere, Ash.

 

Very true, and I by no means think this was a bad ruling; I think they made the right call, and to have expected more at least at this point would have been reaching a bit.

I have high hopes for what will follow this decision at the state level. Actually, the way DOMA stands now, it has a huge invitation for another court case. The specific situation that I'm sure will unfold very quickly is that someone who is legally married may move to a state that doesn't recognize their marriage; The federal government, then, has a very significant choice to make: between denying this couple benefits after they have already been receiving them, or, disregarding the lower jurisdiction's rules about marriage.

For example: If I were to marry my partner in Massachusetts, both the Mass. Dept. of Revenue and the IRS consider me married now because of this ruling on DOMA by the supreme court. Everything is great at this point and there are no issues. However, what happens when I move to say, Texas, which has a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage? My Massachusetts marriage license still exists, and up until this point the IRS was treating me as married. Do they continue treating me as married even tho I live in Texas now? My marriage license hasn't disappeared, but now if they do treat me as married still, there is a conflict of records between the IRS and the Texas Dept. of Revenue. This might lead to either very strange loopholes, or serious problems accurately filling out Texas records. The other option would be for the IRS to suddenly ignore my marriage, but then is it violating this Supreme Court ruling? Or, does this bring up an entirely new court case about the Full Faith and Credit Clause - where in Texas is violating the constitution by not recognizing valid official documents from the state of Massachusetts?

So anyway, it will be very interesting to see what happens in courts going forward; but I have optimism about things going our way, and marriage equality becoming more and more common as we keep on debating it's merrits either in court or at the voting booth.

 

Once the really old white conservative/republican males die out you'll be fine.

 

well think of it this way, what if you already live in Texas, and you want to be married so you fly to Massachusetts to have the wedding there, and then return home?

Or in my situation, I live in Virginia, which doesn't have same-sex marriage, but what's stopping me from going a few miles north up to Washington DC to get married... does the IRS recognize my certificate? because by this supreme court ruling if it doesn't then it is discriminating against me unconstitutionally, because it's a valid license... but then what is Virginia doing? are they also discriminating against me illegally? Do I get federal benefits and no state benefits? Do I get both? or do I get nothing?