The Dark Equestria Setting (Grimdark, Discussion)

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  1. EquestrianScholar

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    Hello, it would seem that Cobrabrony had first sparked interest on my idea but I will expand on what he posted by giving everyone a fuller idea of the setting
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    I hope to start a new RP on this site, a different setting if you will. Yet to get this off the ground I will need others to be interested in this setting, willing to perhaps add to and even suggest changes. In this setting Celestia and Luna are the empresses of Equestria, both tyrants in their own right though Celestia is a bit hot headed and has a dark sense of humor while Luna is cold and calculating.

    Yet at one point Luna had actually been good, becoming Starlight Moon and creating the Midnight Order... a safe haven for ponies wanting protection and peace from the heavy weight of the Empire. Yet Celestia had a plan, a plan that took 1000 years to come to full fruition, having banished Starlight Moon to buy herself time, and created the Elements of Discord. Upon the return of her wayward sister, Starlight Moon was forced to become the evil Empress Luna once again.

    Who did this to her? Twilight Sparkle and those like her... herself being the Element of Spite and the other discordians being the Elements of Cruelty, Deceit, Treachery, Greed, and Fear. Working together because each wanted power and the ability to control others. Was this a stable union? No, there will and is conflict between these six 'generals' at times yet partly from fear of Celestia and partly because of their own selfish desires they worked together.

    The focus will be characters within the Midnight Order, and while it is a darker Equestria and many of the ponies from the show will have a reversal of roles (the Empresses and Discordians being the biggest case of this) with examples being Prince Blueblood, Trixie, Gilda, Harmony (instead of Discord) who actually took over leading the Order when Starlight Moon could not. The eventual goal will be to overcome or 'harmonize' the empresses and the Six, to turn Equestria into a happier place.

    I will work to make sure it stays under or at a PG-13 rating, keeping major violence and 'other' subjects behind the scenes as I very much dislike excessive violence and well taking other things to far. I will also avoid having swearing in this setting, at most allowing 'pony swears'. I will probably need a mod to keep an eye on this RP as I don’t want it to break any rules.
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    Below you will find outlines of a variety of characters from the show, which will give players a starting point in the making of their bios. Remember this questions "how would they be different?" "Why would they do this or be where they are?" "how would being in such a place changed them, to be born in this Equestria?"


    Members of the Midnight Order:
    * Starlight Moon: Former member and founder of the Midnight Order, considered lost. The dark hearted Luna had been shown the truth of her Equestria and was offered to make it better. Using her magic Harmony brought about a very suitable change over Luna, opening her heart for good to flow into it. Becoming Starlight Moon she worked with Harmony to create a safe haven and resistance to Celestia's rule. Yet eventually came the time she was to face Celestia and was locked for 1000 years, and when released Celestia was ready to undo what Harmony had done. Using the Dark Elements the good that was in Starlight Moon was forced out from her soul and her heart was closed from any farther alteration.
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    * Harmony: This strange yet powerful being brought about the coming of Starlight Moon and helped create the Midnight Order over 1000 years ago. Currently she is the secret guardian and source of wisdom for the Midnight Order, only know by the high level members... yet she is spoken of by others. Could be said to be the one in charge if it wasn't for the fact she lets others do so.
    * Prince Blueblood (Element of Generosity): high level member of the Midnight Order, keeps an eye on his aunts as well as Rarity's activity with Canterlot elites. Out of all the high level members he is look on the most for leadership and to give the orders.
    * Trixie (Element of Magic): high level member of the Midnight Order parents killed by Twilight. In addition, when she tried to face Twilight she was mocked, humiliated, and left for dead. The most magically gifted in the Order and the one in charge of training unicorns in more advanced magic as well as keeper of lore.
    * Gilda (Element of Loyalty): high level member of the Midnight Order, betrayed by Rainbow Dash and forced to watch her kind hunted and killed for sport by the pegasi. In charge of combat training and has connections with the Griffin Kingdom.
    * Flim and Flam (Elements of Honesty): high level members of the Midnight Order, ran out of business by Applejack. A good head for numbers and money, as such they are in charge of the Orders flow of money and how to use it. In addition always seems to have a catchy tone to lighten the mood.
    * Ditzy Doo (Element of Laughter): high level member of the Midnight Order, her daughter dinky killed by Pinkamena. Knows how to get information, packages, and mail around Equestria undetected.
    * Iron Will (Element of Kindness): high level member of the Midnight Order, an intimidating yet good hearted minotaur that motivates other members to do everything they can for themselves and stand up for themselves. He give confidence where then had not been such before and show that everypony can become great.


    The Dark Elements... or as some call them the Elements of Discord, who wield each of them 'in ()', and where they stay normally or where they can be found 'in []'.
    Spite (Twilight Sparkle)[The Grand Librarium], Cruelty (Fluttershy)[The 'Beastial' Sanctuary], Greed (Rarity)[The Palace Boutique], Deceit (Applejack)[Apple Corporation, Apple Manor], Treachery (Rainbow Dash)[Sky Fortress], and Fear (Pinkamena)[Ministry of Moral].
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    * Twilight controls the use of magic as well as education and knowledge, having learned some of the darkest magic imaginable and using her intellect to conduct research on a variety of subjects... many of which can cause serious injury or even death to those involved. Many fear the magical sensors in place that can alert her and those under her of magic used, especially teleportation which is forbidden by law for all but a few.

    * Fluttershy is a beastmistress that controls the creatures and monsters of the forboding Everfree Forest... as well as create her own 'children'. A mare with a seemlying 'sweet' exterior but as per her element can be quite cruel and has a terrifying rage when angered.

    * Rarity is considered to be a great beauty indeed; both coveted and fear by those of Canterlot elite, because of her bewitches charm and grace. Controls those of high blood, even going so far as to use blackmail to get what she wants. Runs under her large shop a sweet shop run by foals and mares that have nowhere else to go, as well as sending the prettier and more lovely mares and fillies to be trained to attend to those that visit her shop.

    * Applejack controls the businesses as well as to an extent the criminal element of Equestria, the Apple Corps overshadowing all who wish for work or need to buy and sell. The Apple family being much like the ‘mob’ in setup and is currently run by Don Macintosh though Applejack plans on trying to get her brother out of the way so she can be in change.

    * Rainbow Dash is the caption of the Shadow Bolts, leading her ruthless police force to make sure all the laws of the empresses are followed. Yet her and her officers are as corrupt as you can get taking or demanding as well as using violence against those that try to go against them. She is known as the fastest pegasus in Equestria and to hear the sound of the Dark Rainboom means that another pony will be captured by her.

    * Pinkamena is for many the discordian one should fear the most... which is what she wants. Her laughter and smile bring a chill to a pony's heart. One's paranoia becomes complete as you cannot outrun her, you cannot hide from her. She creates parties nopony wants to go to but must by law. This pink mare controls the moral making sure all live with a hopelessness and fear... herself moving from glee, to depression, to anger.
     
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  2. Bright Heart

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    Hey equestrian sorry about that I guess great minds think alike. Anyway here's sone of the mane 6 + some others backstory and changed names in a video I found that might help I'm in.
    [video=youtube;NwlKfHG4cGk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwlKfHG4cGk[/video]
     
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    Yet when your post is an exact copy of my own... which you posted on the same day I did. (?) Did you see my post and hurry and posted the idea over here? Why didn't you give me credit?: http://www.friendshipismagic.org/forum/f28/rp-ideas-22094/
    "I have a RP idea, though it is a bit 'grimdark'. The basic idea is that you take the Equestria from the tv show and mirror it. Empress Celestia and Empress Luna would be evil tyrants, though at one point Luna because good and changed her name to Starlight Moon. Instead of Discord you have Harmony, who actually lead Luna to becoming Starlight Moon. The Six would the empresses 'generals' and weilders of the Dark Elements: Spite (instead of Magic), Deceit (instead of Honesty), Treachery (instead of Loyalty), Greed (instead of Generosity), Fear (instead of Laughter), and Cruelty (instead of Kindness).

    For conflict there would the Equestrian Empire against the Midnight Order, which was started by Starlight Moon and Harmony as a safe haven for ponies wishing protection against the empresses and the Six... which is now watched over by Harmony because of Starlight Moon was forced to become evil again because of the Dark Elements. High level members of the Midnight Order would be Blueblood, Trixie, Gilda, Flim and Flam, Ditsy Doo, exc. There could even be the possible of Harmony making the counterparts to the Dark Elements (a.k.a. the Elements of Harmony)."
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    I don't much care for the video and I personally wont use what is there in my RP

    Edit: Also if by "I'm in" you mean your in for joining the RP sure. :)
     
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  4. Zephyr

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    The idea seems a bit general for him to have deliberately copied it. Let's just chalk this one up as coincidence and go on along our ways carrying this thing out to fruition. After all, two people seemed to supposedly stumble upon the same idea, it should only prove as a higher form of motivation where you two can act together as a pair of writers and puppet masters behind this RP.

    Two heads are better than one.
     
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    I agree, I already have down I will need help and I would be fine for him to help me. Yet while the idea was general they are exactly word for word, just check the link. Please explain how we could both post on the exact same day the exact same post?
     
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    Hmm never noticed it was the same exact post.
    Ah well, I'm not one for making hypothetical situations about this.

    You two seem to have come to an agreement so carry on.
     
  7. Tyro D. Fox

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    Mirroring a universe has been done with other things many times. The DC Multiverse has been doing things like that for ages. Some shows use that 'evil twin' trope many times. It's impossible to have conceived of the idea by yourself.

    As for posting at the same time...So? So what if it's coincidence or not, does it matter too much? You have the basis for a partnership, burying grudges is the first step.

    This one could be awesome, by the way. I might join this one.
     
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    I have already decided what happened, he must have seen my idea, perhaps even seen how it didn't pass approval on FiM.org and decided to try my idea out over on this site. I would have preferred knowing he had done this but I will make it work out.

    Anyone that wants to join may
     
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    Good to know. Thanks for opting for peace. I thought it worth throwing in my two pence. I'm here if anything pops up.
     
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    Actually we will probably need members to play Prince Blueblood, Trixie, Gilda, Flim and Flam, Ditzy Doo, Iron Will, Twilight Sparkle, Fluttershy, Rarity, Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Pinamena Pie.
     
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    Well...Villains are fun...I'd take one off your hooves.
     
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    Which one? Also can you give me something of a small bio for the character as well, so I understand how you will do at playing him/her?
     
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    Err...Let's go with Twilight and I'll get back to you on the Bio. It's getting later here.
     
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    Okay remember to consider how things would be different, how Twilight would see her mentor Celestia and how she would be able to look up to her (and perhaps fear her) even though she is evil. Also consider how her being the Element of Spite and being the Sun Empress's personal student would effect her personality. How her powers and intellegence would be used for more darker purposes.
     
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    I don't think we have that many RPers @_@
    You may have to have multiple people, if not everybody, contribute multiple roles.
     
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    Whatever will work, it makes sense people will need to play multiple roles.

    Myself I will be playing Empress Celestia, Harmony, and maybe Pinkamena (I will allow someone else to be Empress Luna). This is in addition to my OCs Mythos Gray and Stardream.
     
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    I like this idea, can I join?
     
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    Sure just pick what characters you want to play and make bios for them using the outlines I have made for each character. I will see if your a good fit for the characters you want to play.
     
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    When you say bio, do you mean make a short sort of history for the character, along with what they do on a daily basis and some other probably mandatory things?
     
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    Yes exactly, part of the reason for this bio will be for me to have an idea how you will play the character
     

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