Vegetarian bronies

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  1. Yetione

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    so yeah, since ponies are officially vegetarians (pinkie pie said so herself, ham doesn't necessary have to be from meat, and they can have pigs as pets).
    so I was jut wondering how many vegetarian bronies are out there, and if you would like to share your story of why you're vegetarian, and what type.

    me: yes, I'm vegetarian, oho-lactose-vegetarian to be precise (I eat eggs and products that contain eggs and milk and products containing milk).
    why did I become vegetarian?
    well, I always loved animals very much (not in that way, you dirty heads). When I was 15, I saw how they ripped skin off alive raccoon (and racoons are one of my favorite animals) which ripped my heart in half. I was against fur before and all, but that made me thinking. I'm anti racism anyway when it comes to humans (I'm half black, half white in first place), and I questioned myself: wait, that what I eat, also had feelings, had lived, and had felt pain. wait, I CAN live without it. so, if me giving up a treat for myself will keep some animal from being eaten, well, that's than small sacrifice if I can save life. I literally stopped eating meat in one day, and I don't eat meat ever since.
    Simply, I love all animals, and I don't see why we (humans) should separate animals to cute and not cute and give them different right, when all have lifes, feelings, and love. You'd be surprised how good pets pigs for example can be for example.
    well, that's just my story
     
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    Nah, I'm a meat eater. Nothing more to say.
     
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    I used to be vegetarian. Now I eat everything. Even clams.
     
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    I had something like this Yeti, when I eat dinner today.

    I was wondering about what ponies eat. Technically I haven't seen them eat meat, but whatever...

    As for me, I'm a meat-eater. I eat some veggies, but not all. Not even salad or the ingredients that make up a salad. :derpe:
     
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    The way I look at it is animals eating other animals is 100% natural, especially considering we as humans are gastronomically designed to take nutrition from meat. There are proteins and nutrients from meat that can't be obtained anywhere else. Meat is good for you, so I eat it. Diet is very important to me. I like to keep a balanced diet, and although that's been shaky in recent times, I do like to eat the right proportions of everything. That includes meat.

    The only grounds I can imagine any vegetarian would have are ethical ones. You only have to watch a small clip of a battery farm to lose all willingness to eat meat at all. As a huge advocate of animal rights, it sickens me to see them used for meat like that, especially considering so many people will then buy the meat and support this trade. However, that only makes me want to eat meat from trusted farms with humane methods of killing.

    In an ideal world, animals aren't bred for food, but are allowed to run free, and humans still hunt for food. Granted it's more of a case of mass hunting done by those in that select career path, similar to becoming a farmer, but the principle is the same, especially for the animal. It's the way of nature.
    I love animals too, but nature is nature. This happens all over world, with or without humans. Surely by standing against killing for food, you also stand against animals like cheetahs relying on the only method of survival they've had. It's the way of things, nothing can dictate that.

    I understand it's easy to say natural predators have to rely on on hunting, whereas humans have other methods of eating. This could seem as if killing animals for food is nothing more than a preference of food taste. However, it's imperetive to be reminded that humans rely on meat, it's part of our diet. Yes vegetables are healthy, and meat can be bad for you too, but it's still a necessary part of our diet. It will take thousands if not millions of years for us to evolve out of that.

    Of course, I respect all choices made by anyone in their dietary habits.
     
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    The dietary/health logic of a vegetarian diet is too overwhelming, so I tried it once (my family and friends would tell you that I'm the biggest carnivore they know) but then I ran out of fruits, beans, and vegetables after about a week, and since I don't have a car and there is no supermarket near me, I gave up on it. There are two vegetarian style restaurants near here and they both suck. In fact, tonight I am preparing a dinner and movie for friends and I'm making minute steak with garlic, cinnamon, and caramelized onions with a side of fried potatoes and some good ale. For a movie on my new telly. Go guys' night!

    Otherwise, I don't have any moral qualms about eating meat. It is just bad for you. So all things in moderation I guess.
     
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    I guess I could be considered half-a-vegetarian.

    I refused to eat all forms of red meat and meat.
    The only meat I ever eat is fish and chicken.
     
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    I eat a lot of vegetarian-type food because my mother works at a health food restaurant, but no, I'm not vegetarian.


    Good food though, I'm into stuff like hummus and tofu now, which I never woulda thought I'd ever try.
     
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    I like my steak rare.
    (Clearly steak is vegetarian.)
    Don't worry.
    I respect all dietary restrictions.
     
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    I enjoy being an omnivore.

    Unfortunately, humans are just what that means: top of the food chain. Animals would kill us and eat us, and we simply do the same to them. While that sounds gruesome, it tends to ring true. Cavemen, native Americans/Indians, and virtually any clan or tribe that survives without technology hunts and kills other animals for food.

    I think these days we have the luxury of options, but I choose to continue eating most forms of meat. Our bodies can consume the weirdest things. There's a guy who spent 2 years eating an entire airplane off and on.
     
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    I'm not a vegetarian, but that dosen't mean I enjoy healthier foods any less. :)
     
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    This post is post-marked to show up to-day, but was written 12 days ago:
    Inb4 DanSze.
    (Don't ask. Not yet at least. Spoilers.)
     
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    Meat. It is delicious.

    As for the moral aspect of vegetarianism, I find it a tad bit silly. This is not to say that I don't do stupid things, even knowingly, or to say that I will go and kill every vegetarian, but this does not shift my opinion.

    Yeti, and others, said that they belive that animals should be killed humanely. Of course, this is admirable, but can an animal be truly killed humanely? Does it really matter, even? Either way, you get meat on your plate, but one way is more efficient, and has the capacity to produce enough food to feed more people, thereby being an effective method of fighting the problem of world starvation, even if it is against one's business sense to fight said starvation.

    As for the whole emotions argument, I personally find that out of perspective. Yes, animals most likely have emotions. So do humans. So does every sentient being, including mammals, birds, etc, regardless of their planet of origin. By this logic, you must also refuse to live on this planet, since there is no nation that is not currently at war, and is not involved in orchestrating the deaths of thousands. You must also refuse to live in this solar system, since it's particles have belonged to other, long gone, solar systems, which most likely had some sort of fauna, all of which was of course destroyed by the explosion that brought said particles here.

    Note, however, that each person defines what logic and morality means for themselves. Sometimes, what others thing is the same, you think is different, simply because you believe it to be so, and there is nothing one can do to change that, so I really can't bring myself to actively hate on someone for something like this. In retrospect, vegetarianism is as good a religion/cult/esoteric organization of choice as any.
     
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    This post is post-marked to show up to-day, but was written 12 days ago:

    First off, let's start with; that is a personal opinion. I respect your opinion on the matter.
    Why do I bring this up? Let us delve deeper.

    Once again, an opinion. Perhaps it may be correct, but do site it as so (an opinion).
    Otherwise, I'm getting the sense that you are trying to force your opinion upon me.


    Here, I'm just being picky:
    Fallacies: Post Hoc, Slippery Slope, Appeal to Emotion, Appeal to Tradition

    Your probably still wondering what I'm getting at, right?

    Good, you finally fully addressed the opposing side(s) of your points.

    Why have I broken down your work and criticized every little piece?
    Simple. I have concerns.

    Many of your afore stated points are quite valid, however they are mixed with opinion.

    Let me introduce simply and purely fact into this discussion.
    To be vegetarian, it its essence, is to not consume meat or animal products, but however may or may not
    include dairy products and products of similar nature (ie. are of animal origin, but do not involve the slaughter of animal).
    Reasons for an individual being restricted to such a diet that might involve, but are not limited to:
    A personal choice, A dietary restriction, A medical restriction, A religious dietary restriction, etc.
    These reason may be of ethical, religious, political or other nature.

    Vegetarianism, (to be a vegetarian) is a something that a person should be able to live by and be unjudged
    by his or her peers, on any scale and in any circumstance. Vegetarianism is a right that is protect by
    the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and/or a similar federal document in most countries.

    This also means that any person wishing to become Vegetarian is at right to do so without being being
    discriminated against, or labeled.

    Why have I brought all of this up?
    Because I fear that this thread is simply causing people, to perhaps even on a subconscious level,
    label each other. I'm completely fine with this thread, as long as people don't become uncomfortable,
    or feel as though they are being singled out, or label and grouped with other based on their decisions.

    I know we are a community that has heavy emphasis on Love + Tolerance, but we are also an incredibly
    diverse community. It is the nature of some people to be judging, it is the nature of others to be thinking,
    that doesn't however mean that it should be in your nature feel that you have the authority to make
    choices for and/or influence the decisions of others.

    My 2 cents.
    Dan, be careful with what you say.
     
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    That was... elaborate? To each his own.

    It's a choice like any other. Preference, religion, etc; It's something you choose to believe in and helps define you. Opinions help define a person. Whether those beliefs are incorrigible or not doesn't matter. :)
     
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    I love mutton, raw-medium with mint sauce, in particular and all sorts of meat based cuissine in general, even had horse a couple of times.

    Sadly lately meat's quality is on rock bottom, you can fork like 30€ on a couple decent steaks, from a trusty marketplace, and then in the pan they would unleash a true ocean of water, or be chewy as Chaplin's trademark shoe. That is no doubt a consequence of the actual industrialized meat production. That can potentially hurt the farms, as bad meat drives away customers.

    That would count as fowl diet...
     
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    I'm a not-so-strict vegetarian.

    My mother and I made a deal, and that was that I would eat fish and seafood until I went away to College, just so she could cook for me. I accepted the terms, but even after I give up most seafood, there are a few meat-type-things I plan to keep in my diet. Those are sushi and crab meat, but I consider them delicacies, and thus would not eat them very often.

    The reason why I don't eat most meat is because I want to have as little of an impact on the environment as possible. Also, at this point, I just don't like most of it.
     
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    um... well, I didn't want this topic to turn people fighting against each others (that's what's header on first post on)

    and GreyOne said @ DanSze: wait, what religion, what cult? why are you trying to label people like that? this is like if I now label everyone who watches mlp to some stereotype.
    for one thing, no, I'm not three hugging, long hair, John Lennon sunglasses, hobo looking hippie like you might imagine me when I said I'm vegetarian.
    I'm same me I was before I become vegetarian, as well I'm same me as I was before I became brony.
    it's thing I chose for my own life, and please, don't force your life choices on others.
    as for health, since I'm semi-professional to professional athlete, I have to go often to health check ups to renew my competing license, and 5 years of being vegetarian ,and still nothing wrong with my health.
    everything else is explained in first post.
     
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    I must ask, since I regard you as reputable sources.
    Some people around me In my life claim "They are vegetarian, thus they cannot eat meat", is this true? Does the consious decision to not digest meat actually prevent a person from eating it?
    I realise it sounds like a silly question but Im not a vegetarian and the vegetarians claiming this are too snark to give a straight answer.
     
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    One way to find out is to sneak meat into a vegetarian dish, and see if they still eat it or not, LOL

    But really, those people might just find the taste of meat to be very unsavory, and so they say that they cannot eat it. For example, my mother made these lime flavored french fries a few years ago that tasted so bad, nobody could stand to eat the things. It wasn't that we couldn't digest them, it was just that the taste was so bad to our tongues, that it was unbearable to eat them. I assume that some vegetarians have the same feelings about meat that I had about those lime french fries. It's probably not that they physically can't consume meat, but that they just can't stand eating it.

    I have never been a vegetarian myself, if only because it seems like such an inconvenience in my country's daily life, with all of the meat filled foods on the market. Combine that with my own dislike of most vegetables, and the fact that I was raised in a somewhat traditional family, and you can probably understand why I turned away from the idea of trying to stop eating meat. I've heard stories of animals being treated cruelly, and I'm not oblivious to that as I enjoy a cheeseburger, or fried chicken strip. Sometimes it makes me feel sick to think that I'm eating what used to be a living creature like myself, but usually I don't dwell on that for very long.

    As long as the animals live a good life, are not mistreated, and are killed without any pain, then I don't have any qualms with using them as a food source, since the consumption of meat clearly happens in nature as well. It does upset me to know that not all animals used for food are treated so well, and I think we need to make sure as a society that we keep regulations on companies, and farmers who take care of, and slaughter the animals. Ugh, the word slaughter makes me cringe though, I have to admit. I have thought about becoming a vegetarian on a few occasions, but as mentioned before, there are too many things that keep me eating meat.

    If it was more convenient for me, I would probably become a vegetarian, since I tend to be Jainist in nature when it comes to all living things. It's simply too hard for me to stop doing what I've been brought up to do at this point I believe, but I respect most vegetarians for their well meaning hearts.
     

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