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  1. Fenris Rose

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    I'm referring to the ones employed legitimately, using falsified documents.
    The other half would be children, the elderly, and those working at illicit or off-the-books trades.
     
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    ah. still, it's unlikely he would ship them all off. the elderly, maybe, but the corporations want those children to grow up and take jobs from them with *squee!* pay.
     
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    It's not a matter of want or don't want, it's a matter of law. These people have no legal right to live or work in the US, and are breaking the law by doing so.
     
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    I hereby challenge you to substantiate this claim of "criminals and degenerates" with concrete evidence.

    None of us were alive at the height of the Postwar boom where even a high school dropout had a decent chance of finding a job that could comfortably support an entire family. Additionally, even what one could call the "better years" you and I were alive to witness were built upon foundations of sand (an unprecedented expansion of credit and world trade, a massive influx of cheap labor from China, etc.); they could not have gone on indefinitely, regardless if a Democrat or Republican were in office.

    And once again, an entire people is being blamed for such a thing. By this same logic, whites as a whole are responsible for the crimes of Nazism.

    If this is the case, why did you have an avatar background with a Confederate battle flag? The Confederacy committed treason against "this country," and they did it by force of arms with the aim of giving slavery an extended lease on life (no amount of neo-Confederate historical revisionism is going to get around this fact). Even from the narrow and reactionary standpoint of American patriotism, having any monument of a Confederate general or leader is analogous to having a monument dedicated to Benedict Arnold. I don't recall you being particularly happy with the names of schools and such being changed to something of a non-Confederate nature.

    Branding entire groups of foreigners as "degenerates" or "killers" of Americans is xenophobic at best. And not surprisingly, there is the usual lack of any concrete evidence to substantiate what you are saying. The nugatory slogans of Donald Trump do not constitute a valid argument.

    A matter of law? Evading a police officer is a violation of the law. Furthermore, as I have pointed out before, the Confederacy committed treason against the United States, and it ended up costing hundreds of thousands of lives. Queen Cerali has pointed out that Donald Trump's calls to reinstate torture are illegal. Interestingly, when it comes to you or what you support, the standards to which you subject these immigrants do not apply. This isn't actually about a matter of law. What we are dealing with is an irrational fear and/or hatred of the immigrants in question.
     
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    And once again, we are dealing with empty abuse instead of actual arguments. Additionally, if you are that worried about people seeing or "using" such things, they shouldn't be posted on website that can be accessed by the public in the first place.

    If pointing out someone's logical inconsistency (and for the record, I do not support that cop) with something they posted for all to see is a "low blow," what is branding millions of immigrants as "degenerates," "criminals," and the like?

     
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    So many counts of Godwin's Law. *tsk*, *tsk*.

    I'm closing this down. Hell no on all this recent stuff! You lot need a breather. Come back when you think you've marshalled your arguements. Right now, this looks like too much of a shouting match. Good run otherwise.

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