I use 40k reffs in the RP and the quote I put above is pretty much the main quote anyone that plays Warhammer 40k knows
Well that's a pretty grim way to look at it don't you think? By the same reasoning we could say that in the future there is only peace as well. But again on the topic of the extremes, I try not to look at things as either completely bad or completely good, it's usually in the middle ground because if there is a war, and we go in there to help, then the people of our country would protest it, and the politicians who gave the thumbs up are probably doing it to keep their jobs instead of doing the good deeds. (There are always exceptions but this is usually the case.) It's really a matter of looking at the glass however you wish, most people say you can either look at it half full or half empty but that isn't good enough for me. What's in the glass? Maybe I should be happy it's half empty, maybe I should be happy it's half full.
ahhh but what if you are a warrior at heart, then a war is seen as the only way to prove yourself. as the Salamanders chapter laminates it in their battle cry- "Into the fires of battle. Unto the anvil of war!"
^ All valid points. But on the subject of peace vs. war, peace is surley an extreme, but war is far more likely. As long as one person wants what another has, war, violence, and hate will rule.
Peace isn't really an extreme, just the common definition seems to be. To me peace is having the means to do something, but not doing so even while yelling at the other party. So long as someone doesn't throw a punch (Take that however.) then it's still peaceful. Not a peaceful as it could be but it's surely not war. Unless you count the cold war. (I guess) Oh snap.
Hehehe, being a military history major has it's points and you good sir have just stepped into my playing filed.
You're quoting Warhammer on philosophy, a very dark setting (whether you take Warhammer Fantasy or 40k, both are grim as heck), two outlooks that basically say the world is dark and in a state of total war. I'm taking mine from Doctor Who where the main character abhors violence. Just pointing this out.
He may abhor violence, and he may always look for the good in others, but you must admit, The Doctor discovers some of the darkest scum that life has to offer. Dalek anypony?
Warhammer fantasy and warhammer 40k my seem all grim but there is some light in there you just have to look hard enough.
^ I love games/books/movies like that. I think that the greatest tale is one of darkness, one that somehow holds a glimmering light at its core.
@Rashall There's barely any light. There's a bit more light in Warhammer Fantasy then 40k, however, its still not a lot. Mhm, and thats why I find the Doctor to be so inspirational. He encounters all of the scum of the Universe, saving the universe one person at a time, failing sometimes, yet, after all of the atrocities he's witnessed, he's never stooped to their level. The only time he has killed was in the original series in the movie from the 1990s, where he ended the Time War after wiping out the entire Dalek and Time Lord races. And to this day he feels bad about it and hates himself because of it.
This is one of the things that I think makes the Doctor such a unique character besides his completely absurd personality. There really isn't many characters that can go through something like that and keep on going, especially in TV shows nowadays. No, they would just use the character's grief to be the main driving point for a good amount if episode after that. (Boo hoo we get it) I honestly like how the Doctor is a character that is able move away from his grief but still carries it with him as a sign of guilt so he never repeats the same tragedy. (Well would you look at that, the experience motif that's been floating around here pops up once more)
Sorry to interrupt you and the Doctor’s god complex, but he has “stooped to their level a couple of times. He has caused the death of more life forms than just the Daleks and Timelords. examples of this can be seen in The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Dominators, The Invasion, The Krotons, Spearhead from Space, The Sea Devils, The Three Doctors, The Brain of Morbius, The Talons of Weng-Chiang, The Invasion of Time, Earthshock, Vengeance on Varos, The Two Doctors, Silver Nemesis, "World War Three", "The Christmas Invasion", "Tooth and Claw", "The Age of Steel", "The Runaway Bride", "Smith and Jones" and most notably in Remembrance of the Daleks when he arranges for the planet Skaro to be destroyed. Doctor purposely takes a life is The Sontaran Experiment, where he tells his companion Harry Sullivan to remove a device from the Sontaran ship, which causes the death of the Sontaran. In "The End of the World", the Doctor teleports Cassandra back onto the ship and does nothing to prevent her death, even ignoring her cries for help and pity. And in The Fires of Pompeii he caused the volcano above Pompeii to erupt, which killed everyone in the city. So yes, rule one; The Doctor lies.
I'm sure any mother would protect her son/daugther before herself. That's a good example to explain what Rashall meant.
Did you think I was disagreeing with you? It was meant as a complement, and to say that I am not as courageous as I would like to be. Sorry if it sounded otherwise.
