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  1. Swift_

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    Omnipony might be facing jail soon who knows lol, idk how his grooming drama ended but I remember he tried to downplay his mesed up actions as a mental illness. Dunno about the rest of the musicians tho
     
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    What happened? Have stayed away from all musician related news.
     
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    Recently admitted to grooming a much younger girl years ago, claims "hypersexuality" as an excuse, unfortunately nuked all his music in the process which is the only shame as his stuff was FIRE tho
     
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    I had to look up what grooming means :laugh:
    A real shame, though. His music really was a whole different thing. Gladly I kept some of it. Lemme see if my peps have an archive to share it over here.

    What's up with horsefamous and pedophillia? I didn't think we had that much dirt everywhere. :dunno:
     
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    It's sad, really. I feel bad for the person involved. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, bronies were a subgroup of furries and we inherited a lot of their sick drama as well.

    I guess it's a common phenomenon for a group of empathic, accepting free thinkers to attract sick minded individuals who expect their deeds to be forgiven and forgotten because hey, "Love and Tolerance" amirite?
    I could be wrong now, but that's what it always looked like to me.

    EDIT: off-topic but this is the most active I've ever been on this forum in the past decade and wow it actually feels great to keep wanting to come back and be excited to hit refresh over and over in anticipation of replies and activity.::S:
     
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    I think you're right. And the perception of the fandom suffers. It happens in most fandoms. The loud outliers and extremists in the fandom are what makes the news. The regular stuff doesn't get views from people outside the fandom. So the news sees this stuff and reports it and that's the only thing people not in the fandom see.
    They see the extreme ones yelling about every minor injustice they perceive has happened. They see the rare sexual predator get caught.
    And when that's all they see in the news about the fandom, that's all the fandom is to them. And the 99% of the ones not like that at all are all bunched in with the 1%.
     
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    Woah woah woah. Hold your horses for a moment there.
    Dunno where you got that information from, but we were a totally separate subgroup at the beginning. I was there, we were the kind of anons who would despise furries and troll them whenever they got out of their contension board. We are more a subgroup derived from otakus/aniotas. Most of the very early anons that coined brony were rather active on anime and manga discussion, you can even tell from the art we were influenced mainly by weebs. Hell, we could even say we are derived from the touhou fandom, given most of us hanged at any touhou thread on /v/ and the IRCs were full of touhou references.
    That later on furries joined in buckets doesn't mean we are derived from them. Most likely, they contaminated our ranks. In january of 2011 we had a very clear line to divide us. The fandom boom blurred the line too much and then extreme progressists took over all brony media outlets and silenced all they deemed "wrong". One of the reasons we don't use the term brony over 4chan anymore is because we felt robed from the utopic community we built after the massive ban. Normies kept pushing us away from the sites we helped fund.

    As a matter of fact, purists from /mlp/ can't stand furries. You can see the division between purist bronies and the rest over there. They don't endorse "realistic" ponies either because how close they are to furry art. There are entire posts from artists explaining anatomic differences between brony art and furry art.

    Another reason why we don't like furries over there is the witch hunt they made against us due dumb popularity problems. They literally hated us because we were the new buttmonkey of the net. People picked on us a lot, and they missed to be the center of hateful attention. I can quote a furry that was friends with my exfiance: "you guys took away our popularity! That's why we hate you brony trash!". I'm not kidding on that quote. Dude even celebrated when she cheated on me.
     
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    I will not argue your opinion and reasoning here. Though I would like to announce something that may cause some ire.

    I am a furry. Though unlike alot of those in the fandom, I don't outright make it my personality. If anything, I really could care less about the popularity drama. And I will admitably say that there are things I hate about fellow furries. And it's similarly the case for self proclaimed bronies too. And that's the toxicity in both. Granted the furry fandom is far more severe.

    And if I could. You have my condolences with with what you had to deal with regarding your ex-fiance and her friend. I honestly am disgusted that anyone would drag that kinda drama BS into things it has no place being. More importantly, I am genuinely embarrassed that a fellow fur would do such a thing.

    If this changes your outlook on me. That's fair enough. And I will not blame you if you wish to poke fun. Honestly alot of the furry fandom deserves it for it's fair share of stupidity.

    Anyway. That is my two cents. Take that as you will.
     
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    No worries. I know not all furries are like that. Glad to know you're not like them. I still have a few friends from your fandom. Some are really cool.

    In any case, I will be less vocal about my disliking for the collective since I know it could be bothersome to you and honestly I would hate to harm you given you've been a good person towards me.
     
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    I appreciate the consurn, but it's alright. I am not a person who would sit in the proverbial house fire that is furry fandom toxiticy and say 'this is fine', when it's clearly not.

    And I am glad you have friends in the fandom that aren't as bad~

    Which is perfectly fine~

    For me though, as much as I find it neat that there is anthro versions of MLP characters, I cannot personally bring myself muddle the purity of the characters like that in my fan creations and ocs in general. Not that I haven't tried. It just didn't feel right for me is all.
     
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    To nekro post and totally take this thing wayyy off topic, as I happen to be going through yet another covid induced nostalgia binder, I too miss those halcyon days of yore when the fandom was in its boom and new people were coming in and creating whatever they could. However my timeline would change a bit from the standard one posted here (though the 3 or so people posting in the thread don't make for a great sample size). My favorite time in the fandom has to be the season 4 airing. We had moved past the apocalypse that was the twilicorn, and the first EqG movies and had almost regained the pace and tone of the mid season 2 fandom. Going to cons at this point was also some of my favorite experiences, as FiM had left its "woah so hip, so challenging gender norms" phase and a lot of the more social trend chasing people had begun to ween off the fandom leaving a larger and more diverse group of fans before it began to shrink again into what it is today. But there are times, a lot more so recently with quarantine and the pandemic and the entire world changing overnight because of it, that I find myself really just lost in memory missing the time when I was a college freshman straight out of the army spending my time and money enjoying a show about pastel colored horses and their imaginative fantasy world and the people who I enjoyed it with.

    I originally started looking back right after I had heard that the season 9 finale had aired officially in the US, marking the end of Gen4 as far as tv was concerned, and most of the people I talked to felt the same way. Having dropped in and out of the show for years since mid season 6 it felt odd to have something I enjoyed actually end, and not in too terrible a fashion as well. Then the next year we got Covid, and the world stopped for damn near over a year leading to more and more time to get lost in my nostalgia for a community that had mostly ended and resigned itself to a quiet content existence in a few corners of the internet. I do miss the days of the big fandom events though, and still wish I could even go back as recently to relive the last convention I went to, and maybe even attend bronycon 2019 for the entire thing this time. One of the things I remember most was hosting a party for the season 5 premier, rented this place in one of the local malls (local at the time) that was normally used to host big corporate party events. Nice big projector hooked up to someones craptastic laptop pirate streaming the new episodes as they aired, complete with commercials. I suppose like anything in life, it's the people you miss the most, as almost all of them have either moved on completely or just vanished from the internet entirely(at least the places I can find/know where to look). I suppose this comes with age for everyone, I just so happen to be a lucky member of the first generation that can infact visit old places that look exactly the same as they left, complete with memories and voices still hanging in the air, all thanks to the internet.

    I dunno, with all that's been happening in life and the world these past 10 years since I joined this fandom, a lot has changed. But I'd still go back and do it all over again. I've made some lifelong friends thanks to this community of tiny horse enthusiasts and I look forward to seeing what happens next. I guess I should end this rambling mess of a nonsense post now, but it felt good to type out this many words again, I haven't done so since I graduated college in 2018 and while this will almost certainly remain unread I do want to just say a simple Thanks to the entire fandom, for being the most fun I think I've had so far.
     
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    If a place grows THIS quiet, almost every post could be considered necroposting ::S:

    I've looong abandoned the fandom's ship by the time S4 started airing, but despite that, everything you wrote about hit straight home for me with a feeling of familiarity. Unfortunately, I've only managed to attend 1 brony meetup in my life, but it was the best fun I've ever had with socializing, and I wish I could do it all over again. Not just that meet, but my entire time in the fandom from 2011 onwards. This place was my second home and I'd kill to hear the livestream radio playlist and chat with the folk there just once more.

    This is what REALLY hits the nail for me. I've met so many cool people during my time here and also IRL, but I've lost contact with them around 7-8 years ago. From time to time, I can't help but wonder if they are doing alright. I miss them but at the same time I feel like the long time gap would make it impossible to pick up again from where we left off. So it's like, I wanna hear from them, but I'm also afraid because I know we'd run out of topics in 1 second flat :confused: It really is a bittersweet feeling, isn't it?
     
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    Wish I could relate a little bit more, but for latin americans the whole fandom experience was quite different.

    You see, we pretty much have had little to no oportunities to attend an actual brony convention, let alone a big one at all. Ponies were a bigger taboo than they should have for most of the series lifespan. To make things worse, the official dubs arrived far too late and most people won't even try to learn english at all, making the early fandom days rather lonesome for most of us.

    I can speak a bit deeper about my experience as a mexican brony.

    Given the horrible economical situation most mexicans endure, most of us never had a chance to do anything "crazy" like travel on a plane just to hang out at a con. We're pretty much isolated from other bronies, and we were very little in numbers back in the golden days. Most of our interactions were online with people from other countries, making knowing more languages rather valuable, but paradoxically only wealthy guys could get the resources to study by themselves or get classes.

    So aside from being lonesome, we also missed out all the cool things that kept coming with the time. Like blind bags! Being a brony and trying to be a collector was really hard for us in the early days. Blind bags arrived around 2015 in most of the country (some were spotted randomly at the frontier and the capital of the country a few times from 2011 to 2014, though). We missed out many playsets too, and even the guardians of harmony toyline was barely sold, and it was hoarded by a few guys given the low stock, so most of the actual collectibles sky rocketed. Nowadays that the show is dead we finally have blindbags, but from the few last waves, which are not worth collecting.

    After the official dubs arrived to latin america... well, the "fandom" that was born was downright *squee!* I would rather not relate to. Is a mix of dumb furry *squee!*post with lots of clop. That's the "brony" of latinamerica. Is just a huge cum dumpster that does not even make any content. So, if you were to ask me, the brony fandom never existed down here, and due its nature, we still have no actual cons.

    Nowadays the "fandom" is melting away anyway. It was really just a fad down here for most of those guys, and most of the veterans don't speak to each other anyway (like me, I only speak to a single brony from my country, we are rather divided by stupid things).

    Honestly, I really envy everyone from anywhere else. In mexico there were almost no meet ups, and the few people who made them were very toxic, so it was better to miss out. So one was either isolated or drenched in dramas. And being isolated meant you had to watch everyone having fun while all you could do was just miss the things that actually mattered. I also lost all of my friends due an ex, so maybe I'm just a sore loser.
     
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    I've felt this recently actually. A few weeks ago I had some time off and finally caught an old friend online on steam, after talking about some of the other people we knew way back when we spent time catching up and then after that exchanged some more permanent information and don't really talk much after that. I guess time does move on and people do too. Still, it was a great feeling reconnecting with someone from back then, even if we have changed.
    As far as bittersweet, yea. I do miss those days when the fandom still felt explosive and full of activity, but I am glad that it had more of an actual end with the series instead of continuing forever until people just outright despise it. It was a unique time, and with how the internet has changed I don't think we will ever see a fandom like it again. But I sure did, and maybe still do, enjoy my time in it.
     
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    I've heard somewhat similar from my friend in Croatia as well. It wasn't really a big social thing there and most people spent their time doing other things so the fandom was mostly online and in english. I can sympathize with the lack of connection, having spent most of the early seasons in Israel were much the same happened with merchandise and lack of any physical meet ups.
     
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    I cannot say I know what it's like to have limited connection with the fandom due to location. Though I never really bothered to go brony conventions. It's mostly due to not having the money for it. Though the other half of it is because those conventions are sown from the same cloth other conventions of the fandom type tend to be like, even though it maybe about something different. Events, dealers dens, people dressing up. I saw all that at the few Furry Conventions I have been to. So I knew I wasn't missing too much. Plus any important things that happened at the conventions would of been posted to the internet.

    That's my view on it though. I am a super introverted person in IRL, so I really don't put too much value in social events. At least not to the same level most will. Unless I am going with a group of friends, then I might go. Otherwise, I am apathetic to the whole thing.
     

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