Feminism

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  1. Frank West

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    I'm just gonna say it. I'm for equal rights. But I goddamn hate feminist

    I mean really. Here's a law that I learned in Sex Ed that I still can't believe exist.

    "A woman who has sexual intercourse with a man can sue for sex without consent if she has proven she was under the influence of alchohol."

    Keep in mind that this is an actual law being enforced TO THIS DAY when I tell you the baffling part.

    This ONLY applies to women suing men.

    'Sexism in Video games and Movies'
    Feminist looking at movies and video games as sexist towards women is probably the biggest piece of crap I've ever heard of
    I mean really, just because they chose a hot actress, means that I'm a sexist pig for watching the movie.

    It's not like there are movies that were just made to be female wet dreams. [​IMG][​IMG]
    I rest my case
     
  2. Echoax

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    The alcohol thing is interesting. For the most part if any other situation occurs and a person is drunk it's there fault. Unless your rich and such, but that doesn't matter here. If a women is going to go to party and drink she is responsible for her choices drunk or not. I'd the person feels she is not capable of making a good decision while drunk they should take a friend along with them that can make the choices. Problem solved or don't drink cause alcohol is worthless.
     
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    Where I'm from, when a person consumes alcohol they cannot give legal consent to sex, so technically having sex with someone who has been drinking without receiving former (sober) consent could be considered rape. If both people have been drinking, they are both in the wrong, so other evidence must be examined. Scenarios like that are one of many reasons why so many rapes go unreported. Of course, other factors affect that to large degrees.

    As far as the whole "suing for drunk sex" thing goes, I don't think that's true. At least, not in the way that you might be thinking about it. In it's own way, it is kind of true, but you misunderstand. Suing someone is something that happens for lots of reasons; technically, you can "sue" someone for anything, the only real question is whether or not you'll win the case. But those kinds of lawsuits aren't really what we should concern ourselves with. No, we need to talk about a different kind of legal suit, where a person violates the law. Then, they are not being "sued" in the sense that we know it, they are being "tried" which in this case is pretty much miles away from being the same thing. Can a woman sue a man for having sex with her while she was drunk? Sure; there's no rule that says she can't. Can a man do the same thing? Yes, there's no rule that says he can't. But those aren't criminal cases. What matters is what constitutes "rape" as a crime.
     
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    Why not say forget the labels and just go for everyone should be equal? Be like an elephant I know and say "a persons a person no matter how small".
    As for the rape thing I think Dilly Star got it right.
     
  5. Robert Toot

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    Honestly, I feel like in the case of rape, the onus should fall on the female. After all, if they can't control their emotions while mensturating, why must we control ours?
     
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    I'm not sure what puts me off more, the point of view which I'm having a hard time believing is genuine, or the blatant typo mixed in with the lexically proficient English.
     
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    What... uhhh... I can't even.

    Please tell me you're a troll.
     
  8. Minterwute

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    The signature is a basis for me to believe that this person is serious, but not for the right reasons. It takes a certain type of person to wear a trilby. On the other hand, I cannot even fathom what the caption is implying.
     
  9. Robert Toot

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    First of all, it's a fedora. Second of all, the caption is simple and relevant to the topic at hand: If the point of feminism is to bring men and their fair counterparts on to the same level, then I am definitely a feminist. I will fight tooth and nail to bring down those differences, especially since as things stand, the legal system is skewed terribly in the ladies' favour.

    Really now? Instead of arguing a point you are going to descend to nitpicking?

    Worry not. I'm the genuine article.
     
  10. Minterwute

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    Yes, I am. Why? I have no intention of arguing with you, that's why. Any point I would make will fall upon deaf ears and be simply met by counterpoints that may or may not be relevant to what I say.

    If you don't believe me, let's do a little test run. Google trilby. Google fedora (if you end up with link to a linux distribution, you're not doing it right). Now compare the image to what the hat in question is. Are you now willing to admit that you were in the wrong and I was in the right?

    Also, I think you might want to touch up on your slang definitions, specifically what "friend zoned" entails.
     
  11. UnityOfFactors

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    "How are you feeling?
    How does someone like you elude the moral quarantine
    does your repression only server the greater lie
    as you abuse and objectify
    all the emotions you defeat you've got the world at your feet
    because you think you've silenced all the critics of your misogynistic lies
    but when you wake up from your reveries you'd better realize
    you're a model of virility a specimen divine
    as you deflower you empower the false ego trapped inside
    and by the virtue of your "conquests" you've endeared yourself
    to those who you hold in high esteem"
    I never thought I could use this quote in retaliation to someone. Thanks for proving me wrong
     
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  12. Saikyo

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    Because guys don't have menstruation, they get horny. If males can't control their sex drive when they get horny, they Mass Ter Bait, or have consensual sex. not rape people.

    Rape is about asserting dominance, not sex drive. It's about humiliation.


    What about males who get raped? I guess it's their fault for being a ****ty twink, right?

    That view, if it's even genuine, is so outdated and warped that you must have come straight out of the 30's. You a time traveler or something?
     
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    Thank you? I guess? It seems about correct, minus the false ego bit. I feel like i'm entitled to a bit of gravitas based on my ethernet heritage.

    Honestly, I wish I was from the 30's. The views popular then seem so much more... sane. Especially when compared to the modern status quo of political correctness and white shaming.
     
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    Are you implying you were conceived as a by product from someone inserting an RJ45 cable into a 802.3 port?
     
  15. Saikyo

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    Invest in astronomic science and physics; you can go into time travel there.

    Not even a clever jape at you, I'm serious. The closest link to time travel we have is space.
     
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    It's posts like these that make me wish these forums had a 'brohoof' feature. :T
     
  17. UnityOfFactors

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    [FONT=lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif]Interesting do you love the internet because [/FONT]The Internet loves hating on "the friend zone," because the Internet sees friendship as the highest form of torture a horrible woman can impose on a sweet and infallible man?
     
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    While it is true, and I could invest in astrological research, I find that it would be both faster and more efficient to invest in more intraterrestrial venues. For example, would it not be more productive towards bringing us back to older, fairer days, to sponsor such heroes as Richard Mourdock, than it would be for me to literally launch myself at a black hole?

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    Ah, but therein lies my greatest realization:

    The true path to feminism is to realize that men are fundamentally better on a biological level. When you come to this realization, you then realize that the true male feminism will see the ladies as his flock. He must lead them and show them the way, in the same way that a priest leads the unenlightened plebeian masses.
     
  19. UnityOfFactors

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    It's also how blind indoctrination works. I see it worked on you.

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  20. Robert Toot

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    No worries good sir, I am not indoctrinated in to anything in the least. In fact, my views are the direct opposite of some of my role models. Unless, of course, Romney is a feminist now.
     

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