I have lost all faith in humanity...

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  1. Fenris Rose

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    I think the blame here goes three ways.

    The trolls are, of course, partly responsible. They knew what that were doing when they targeted this kid.
    They may not have intended for it to come to this, but they did intend to make him miserable.

    Smith's parents are partly responsible. They failed to teach their son to cope with bullying.
    I can't say for sure what his home life was like, but he clearly had not been prepared for how cruel the world can be.

    Lastly, Smith is responsible. Nobody forced him to take his own life.
    He was unprepared to deal with the cruelty of others, and he chose to escape that cruelty.
     
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    Dude, they actually CELEBRATED his death.
     
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    They did? That is... just horrible. They made someone suicide, that is just... just... heartless.
     
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    Celebrated his death?! That is just plain evil.....
    Its like they wanted him to die. Well, its not his fault that he couldn't speak well. People these days are just so mean to the kids that have disabilities. No one is perfect though. Its not their fault they have something like that. They're just born that way.
     
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    this is just sad

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    this.what?
     
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    :sad: wait...WHAT?! they...CELEBRATED HIS DEATH?! :cry: oh my god....thats just sad...i'm literally crying!
     
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    I may sound a little bit rude now but where did you learn this?
     
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    Check out the comments on his YouTube channel.
     
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    They make a guy commit suicide and then proceed to celebrate his death like the *******ing New Year?! Thats just horrible!
     
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    I'd like to point out one more time that nobody made him commit suicide.

    It was his choice, and his alone.
     
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    That happens a lot actually. Like with the super-famous Amanda Todd thing. The people bullying her said they hoped she drank bleach and when she did, and didn't die, they expressed disappointment and said she was such a stupid sl** that she couldn't even kill herself.

    People on the internet really can be horrible, and people in real life can be horrible. I think we can all agree there.


    But when it comes to this argument, it really does come down to personal responsibility. At the end of the day, sometimes you can't make the bullies care. So you have to go to the person being bullied to solve the problem.
     
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    FORGET THE GOD DAMN POINT THAT HE COMMITED SUICIDE WE KNOW IT WAS HIS CHOICE TO TAKE HIS LIFE BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WHY HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DEATH! can you find something else to say aside from stating the fact that he killed himself?because if you can i'm sure we would all like to hear the OTHER things you have to say aside from who's responsible for this and that.
     
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    What else is there to say?
    He's dead, and that sucks.
    Ranting and raving about it won't change anything, nor will assigning blame, nor will anything else that we can accomplish in a forum discussion on a small website.
     
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    in other words you neither care or have anything to say that could lighten the situation…good job there buddy.i'm sure you helped lighten the mood a lot.
     
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    I wasn't trying to lighten the mood, and I do care about this topic.

    I care because this is yet another example of how not teaching kids to cope is creating a society of victims.
     
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    well maybe they did try but since he had a learning disability they couldn't
     
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    I've been thinking more about this, and I have a few more things I want to bring up.
    I'll warn you in advance that these are not pleasant topics, so if you're easily upset, stop reading now.

    I've heard of many cases where a driver who accidentally kills someone in an accident ends up with feelings of guilt and depression. It's a very real possibility that the conductor of the train was traumatized by the experience.

    There's also the matter of his body. Being hit by a train is not like swallowing some pills.
    It's a horrifying, bloody, messy death. I realize that I'm being indelicate here, but those are the facts.
    The people who found his body, the cops who investigated the scene, and the people who had to clean up the mess all had to deal with seeing the mangled corpse of a teenager. That kind of thing takes a toll on people.

    Finally, his parents have to deal with losing their child. That can't be easy.
    In addition to emotional distress, they also had to pay for a funeral, which averages about $6600.

    I realize that there were circumstances that led to his decision to kill himself, but I think he made a selfish decision.
    He was so wrapped up in his own misery that he didn't think about how his death would affect others.
     
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    My opinion is kinda insult to be said. But... he did need helping hand. And got spit in face. Really bad thing, ah assure ya.
     
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    thats mainly the cause of all sucides.misery so what makes you think that he wouldn't think about this?misery is mainly most of the reasons of suicides and besides.if you were him. you wouldn't say you were responsible for your own suicide.
     
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    Humans, being mere mortal, biological entities, only can handle so much before they simply--involuntarily--break down. It varies from person to person, but each and every person has that line, with no exceptions. When someone is pushed--by external forces, not by themselves--past that point, they end up breaking down, and oftentimes, said breakdown ends in suicide.

    It's simple science, backed up by years of study.

    When that happens, the only fault is on the person or people who pushed the person past that point, and nothing else.

    To be honest, between the severe emotional rifts between my family and I, and a near-lack of friends (and a total lack in my local area. all this is thanks to many factors, the main one of which is tribalism--a refusal to accept me because I don't 100% jibe with any of the silly 'subcultures' in the world today) I'm almost past that point myself. That's no fault of mine--it's the fault of those doing the ostracism.

    My heart goes out for this kid, and those that actually cared about him. The trolls need to be charged with, at the very minimum, involuntary manslaughter.
     

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