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    It wasn't that bad, but I'll never watch that like I watch FiM. The animation isn't as pleasing and the character personalities are really different. It makes me appreciate Faust's version a little more.
     
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    Brohoof at 2:49.

    I hadn't watched the whole thing the first time around. And now...

    Ponies have discovered "Pre-gaming." :O
     
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    FAUST YOU ARE MY NEW PATRON GODDESS!!! (Sorry Nepthys)
    Haha. Watching that made me die a little inside....
     
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    as surprising as you may think im sure faust used to enjoy the old series as a child and without it friendship is magic wouldn't be what it is today. the characters, the setting, the songs, everything would've been lost in the sands of time

    so i embrace the old series for it was used as inspiration for our favorite G4 ponies (just my opinion) and opinions are just like flanks, everyponies got one
     
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    It really makes you see, though, the perception of what people THINK FIM is.

    If you were gonna turn people on to FIM, this is probably what they'd expect. It kinda makes you wonder by comparison why G3 had to embrace the stereotype without even trying to be different at all. Yeah, it's for girls, but did it have to be that bland? I suppose it was for a young audience, but the point is, they only helped fuel the stereotype that FIM now has to be handicapped by. *Shrugs*

    The main point is, it's night and day what a little effort can do in a show...one was obviously made with minimal desire for quality (Because it didn't feel it needed much to appeal to girls) while the other has turned the entire franchise on it's head with a bit of creative thinking. :)
     
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    Fairly typical 80's cartoon, I'm afraid to say. I think the only good things that came out of the 80's (cartoon wise) were Transformers and Thundercats. Might be other things, but I'm just waking up.

    But,yes, Beatles, I see your point. They probably never watched the old cartoon, either (I didn't), but it still has that girly image - or rather, what a bunch of *male* business suits think would be girly. It wasn't so much horrible, as just dull and boring. I could never watch it like I can the current incarnation.
     
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    Well-executed? The existence of this fandom is a testament to how much of an understatement that is.

    And yes, FiM is at the top of its class, the unique approach to the show by Lauren did drive the show become, by the
    simple and true definition of the word: Awesome.

    But let us not forget, it may have been Lauren's vision that sparked FiM, but the spark would have quickly died
    out had it been not for the amazing team that brought it to life - the animators, the voice actors, the script writers,
    every single individual that put a little bit of them self into the show. This force behind the scenes took that spark
    and let it grow into a giant blazing fire.
     
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    It's like "Friendship is Magic" has a similar, yet still less-cool older sister.
     
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    ....

    Fixed. That's all I have to say.
     
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    Both of my sisters are shorter than I am, and both older than I am. It's a recurring joke that my sister that isn't dead to me is my "little big sister". That, and she's always been a ridiculously talented basketball player.
     
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    I'm glad the original series exists solely because it allowed Lauren Faust to reboot it and remove the watered-down suckage that infected it from beginning to end. The original was best suited for slightly retarded 5-year-olds on a steady diet of Prozac and Valium. Our new series simply rocks on the highest levels! Intelligently written, creatively drawn, humor and situations suitable for a very BROAD audience...what's not to like?

    I remember the 80s. Very well indeed, as they marked my coming of age. I turned 15 in 1980. I was brought up on the old school classic cartoons, Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies being first among them. Anything done by Tex Avery is a stone cold classic, too.

    Foghorn Leghorn taught me most of what I needed to learn in life.

    Having been there, and TRIED to watch the cartoons of the time, back when they were new, I can tell you that even then I could see that
    for the most part, the cartoons of the late 70s and the 80s simply sucked. Even if they had a good story line, their animation quality was mediocre at best. That was due to cost reasons, I'm sure. Animation went down to as little as 10 frames per second (or even less!) because
    it takes time and money to hand paint 30 animation cells for each second of video. (24 per second for film.) Cutting frame rates cuts costs
    and it was judged adequate for kid's shows.

    By contrast, look at any of today's Flash animations such as FiM, and they're incredibly smooth even in the busiest scenes. Flash animation has brought back full frame rate animation and I could not be happier at the resulting animation quality. It approaches Golden Age quality,
    and with care, can rival it. (The Galloping Gala intro song sequence rivals anything Disney ever put into animation!)


    As for actual shows that I watched, or tried to watch, in the 80s, I found that I actually enjoyed a few. JEM, for one...which is on the Hub now. I can't say WHY I liked it, but I saw an episode recently and the animation quality wasn't quite as good as I remembered it to be, but the story work is reasonably solid.

    Bionic Six was a pretty fun show, too, which seems have faded completely into obscurity. But if you can find episodes of it to watch, you might be well entertained. I think most of the episodes are now on YouTube. Check them out. You might like it, and then again,
    you might facehoof.

    I saw probably the entire original G-Force series, which was pretty much the first Anime series to be shown in America. It was Gatchaman, retitled and voiced over. It was 80s cheesy but as only things from the 80s can be cheesy, but had consistently strong stories.

    Of the various series I saw (0r attempted to watch) from the 80s, those three were the only ones that I could stomach. It was for the
    most part a really bad time for the animation industry.

    Hope returned with Ren and Stimpy. The Simpsons have always been watchable, too.

    I really enjoy some of the really off-beat shows, too. Anyone here familiar with The Oblongs? That tickled my funny bone!
     
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    Very harsh description of the original. The first series was far more specific in its audience. The intent of FiM for children and their parents. Then they accidentally an whole script and ended up with a far more enthralling piece of work than they had intended. It's nice, but FiM takes a lot from the original series. What we have now is simply a new vision of it for the current age.

    It's wonderful, but you never hear of people offering credit to the original team who worked on the first series. Everyone pans it outright without actually looking at the technical sides to it. Lauren Faust is obviously the mastermind behind FiM, but her vision started somewhere...
     
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    Oh, yes, I remember Bionic Six! OK, that was another good 80's cartoon. And, technically, the Simpsons did start in the 80's. So, four good ones.

    The Oblongs. Heh, heh, heh.
     
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    You didn't like Ninja turtles? Thundercats? TRANSFORMERS? THE SUPER MARIO BROTHERS SUPERSHOW??? CAPTAIN N: THE GAME MASTER?? HE-MAN??? DANGER MOUSE?? COUNT DUCKULA?? o_O

    Anyhoove...It can be pointed out that thanks to this, FIM did exist...but that's how things evolve. Out of something flawed, something better is made....the point here is that THIS is just oooooooooone of those embarrassing little hiccups along the way that it is better not to speak of again.

    Like the the Starwars christmas special! :D lol
     
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    I mentioned Thundercats and Transformes before - forgot all about Danger Mouse! Shame on me! The others - well . . . Not my cup of tea, what can I say? Not that they were bad, just not my preference.
     
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    Maybe I was a little harsh toward the original MLP, but I can't stomach it. Any attempt to do so lasts under 30 seconds. It's just unbearable to me.

    In the 80s I didn't really have time to watch everything. (Nor do I have the time now. Such is life.) So while I saw some of those other mentioned shows, not regularly and I didn't get into them. A person can only have so many interests and shows to follow, and for me, it's
    fewer shows than a lot of people will follow.
     
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    The funny thing is, that clip I posted was from gen. 3, not from the 80's...hard to tell, huh? LOL!
     
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