Ponies: (Banned!)

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  1. Ecco the Dolphin

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    What would you do?
     
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    I wouldn't have made a school project on pony in the first place.

    You write a letter or petition to their board of education and get support doing so of it bugs you so bad. Not cause more trouble.
     
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    Why not. Why are ponies a no no. I'm my school people made projects about fox and dirtbikes if they had the chance. If it fits the project and its with in the rules, it's not a big deal.
     
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    Not saying it is a "no no". Just that I wouldn't have picked it. I get that it is stupid ponies are banned at this kid's school, but there's plenty of reasonable ways to maturely deal with and dispute the ban.
     
  5. Ecco the Dolphin

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    Would you consider a protest to be an immature form of action?
     
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    Give your definition of protest.
     
  7. Ecco the Dolphin

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    A morally sound course of action designed to raise awareness of a social injustice.
     
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    If that act of protest in question involves blindly spamming people you don't know with nearly-arbitrary content, then yes. I would agree with mike here. While it certainly is a problem that material is being censored and those whose works have been censored should take it up with the appropriate authority figures, I think the people who take care of the school's website are not the same people who banned the MLP-related works. That's like attacking a janitor because the principal pushed you down on the playground. I'm quite certain that the school has staff whose purpose (among other things) is to manage the website: most schools that have a website do. Spamming that website is only an act of protest as much as bombing France is an act of war on Spain.
     
  9. Ecco the Dolphin

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    Perhaps, but it is a considerably peaceful protest nonetheless. I am not advocating for students to physically assault a school employee on account of the situation; in contrast, I am advocating the act of highlighting the problem to the school officials. When the school officials recognize the problem, it is likely that they will go to the sociology teacher who is beneath them and ask "why are we getting complaint letters from [insert senders] on a situation involving a violation of the freedom of speech from your classroom?" and thus the sociology teacher would be forced to answer for the situation he has caused. This protest is not an attack, it is a complaint to those who are in power on account of someone beneath them who is the root cause of a social injustice.
     
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    While I applaud you for your non-violent attitude -and seriously, I do, keep that up- I feel I must remind you that "spammed with ponies" and "recieved letters of complaint" are quite different approaches and will hopefully elicit two quite different results. It is the difference between lashing out at someone who is not associated or barely associated with the problem, and addressing said problem directly.
     
  11. Ecco the Dolphin

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    Maybe so, but I think what should be brought up is that Ventfy does have the right idea. In order to make a change, something needs to be done; this is the train of thought which Ventfly needed to have considered before ever procuring the idea of "spamming with ponies." Although I respect mike406's opinion, I just do not see a petition working out in this scenario. With a fair minority of the school being bronies, how effective would a petition really be? I think a more direct approach should be taken here, rather than relying on the power of the people and hoping for the best. Building off of Ventfy's thought, in conclusion, I would say that making a complaint should be enough here - and if that fails to get the attention of the authority, then a peaceful protest of some kind should be taken.
     
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    Daaaamn. Ecco thinks too much like me. Am I really that blunt yet rational?

    Someone call an ambulance, I think I'm having a deja vu attack.


    While I wouldn't 'spam with ponies', I'd certainly do something more relevant and likely to be paid attention to than just a petition or annoying spamming. Sometimes a well written letter can do the trick, oftentimes it doesn't.

    You'll just have to find your own way.
     
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    Let me throw this out there.

    You'd be protesting about cartoon horses.
     
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    Contact the school board yourself? It's kinda why they are there, they are like the HR department of schools. Kinda, okay not really.
     
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    Eh, this is true, but people have protested over stupider things.
     
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    I don't know that a protest in any form would be an effective tool in this environment. Things like protests or petitions need a large number of people backing them to be used effectively. A letter of complaint can be effective, but it is also easy to ignore. Especially if you are young, adults will often just assume that any protests or petitions will die down, or can be quelled easily.

    My personal advice would be to step into the office and talk to someone in charge, face to face. Grade school, middle school and high school administrators tend to be just as susceptible to power trips as any other group of politicians, and as follows that trait, they are quite bold in asserting their authority until they're confronted by someone who is just a little bit gutsier than they are. Walk in, ask to talk to someone, don't leave until they see you and then assert your complaint. Sometimes, the perfect mix of polite and obnoxious does the trick; polite enough to be taken seriously and obnoxious enough to show the opposition you won't just go away.
     
  17. Ecco the Dolphin

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    I think you're right - showing that you are seriously repulsed by the problem enough that you are willing to start a face-to-face confrontation should push the school officials to fix the problem presented to them.
     
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    It's really less about the ponies and more about the school system trying to stop bullying by becoming bullies themselves and bullying the kids that would otherwise be bullied by their peers.
     
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    No, it isn't. It's protesting about a cartoon horse.
     
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    Except it's not.
     

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