BaldDumboRat and (not sure on this second one) the Discorded Whooves tumblrs posted stuff on this. In the end, one tumblr confirmed its "natural" existence while both posted that they draw it, but that it's left in its properly labeled and sectioned off area. I don't see why it bothers people so much. I mean, this stuff has existed since the beginning of time. I like to read an occasional erotic story, whether fantasy or non-fiction--it follows the exact some concepts, and usually themes, too. It's out there if you want it, but just about every site will give you warnings beforehand. It's pretty hard to stumble across it accidentally without looking for it (unless you're doing a generalized search on Google). Simply put, it's something private. I wouldn't bring anything like it up in a typical conversation.
I honestly don't care what cloppers do. They can do what they want. A lot of my friends are like that so I don't mind honestly. Cloppers are still bronies in the end. I will love them regardless.
I strongly agree with the OP here. Those interested in that kind of content should be loved and tolerated, and not just because it's the so-called brony motto, but just because it's the right thing to do. At least, that's how I feel. I've always felt that way, even before I was ever interested in such content. Yes, I'm not ashamed to admit it, I do indulge in such content, but it wasn't always that way. I will leave the people nameless and of course I won't go into any details because that'd be inappropriate for this forum. Fortunately for me, I can understand it from both perspectives, because when I first became a brony I wasn't too keen on the idea of R34 and clopping. I didn't dislike anyone that participated in viewing and doing such things, it just felt weird for me. In fact, I never even roleplayed or even had a ponysona back then, much less be interested in that sector of the fandom. That's exactly what it is, a sector of the fandom. It's not separate from bronydom, it's a part of it and should be treated as such. Some bronies like it, some don't. Simple as that. As for me, I was first introduced to it by someone wanting to do a certain kind of roleplay with me. It felt awkward for me at first, but then eventually I grew to like it. Same happened with the artwork. I actually enjoy the artwork not only for the eroticism, but some of it looks pretty good from an artistic point of view, despite the mature nature. So, basically, I made an entire 180º change from someone that wouldn't even consider the idea, to someone that is a fan of it just as much as he admires the innocence of the actual show. It's weird in a way. I keep it separate in my mind. I used to be against it because I had the erroneous view that it ruined the innocence of the actual show. It does not. It has nothing to do with the show. To me, they are two separate realities. When I watch the actual show, I rarely, if ever, think of any of those things. I just can't bring myself to do it. So in my mind, it still retains the same old innocence that I like, while that other part of the fandom can provide a different perspective on things, but only for entertainment purposes and to explore a world of fanon. This has been exhibited by my arguments against most shippings being canon. That's another thing I didn't care for back then— shipping, but now I like that as well. It's amazing how views can change so much in the course of a few months. One of the more important things also to remember is, there is a time and place for it. As long as nobody shoves it into anyone's face in a place where it's not even supposed to be, then I don't even see any point in the intolerance.
ePONYmous, I could not have said it better myself. Your thoughts and experiences are, more or less, the same as mine. I think this is the most important statement from your post. It's all well and good to call ourselves bronies and pride ourselves on our love and tolerance but it's another thing all together to actually stick by that, to truly practice what we preach. I was going to do a proper write up myself but I can't seem to get enough coherency in my thoughts and I would just be repeating what you have said already.
As long as what you do isn't hurting anyone, I have no issue with whatever it is done behind closed doors. If you have an issue with what other people are doing in the bedroom that doesn't involve you, I suggest you take a look at yourself - you are the one with the problem.
I don't see anything wrong with cloppers and rule 34. I don't clop and I don't go looking for rule 34 pictures but that's how some people like it. It's their life so they get to live it how they want to. Those who hate are no better than any other haters on the internet. I have not seen many rule 34 pictures but the ones I have seen are quite well drawn or amusing. As for clopfics, I also find them amusing but I don't go looking for them either.
I think shipping's the furthest I'd ever go, but if I can love and tolerate people who like tentacles, wolves etc, I'm pretty sure it's easy enough to tolerate people who like ponies in that way, if not easier.
I guess there is something for everypony, I guess. There are fetishes for pretty much everything and It being ponies, is exception. I got nothing against cloppers, just let them have their little fun. But those who wish to talk to about it, here are two Bronies that i stumbled at on DA popular listing on the home page. JungleAnimal and Kloudmutt. <--- These two do Pony Porn and well, I don't care for it but sometimes it makes wonder why you spent time making this but it's their thing, so be it.
As do I, but I don't particularly care what other people do so long as it isn't forced upon me. This is a really gross/sad/creepy/funny/pathetic statement. Marston says: Tolerate people who like pornographic cartoon ponies, worry about people who are attracted to animals. Makes sense. How do you mean "realities"? I agree with this. The last part is a bit of a stretch.
To be more clear on my statement, those people who stick their nose into other peoples' business are pretty much the equivalent of this kid: Also, my statements are also more on a general term of what people do and not just confined to the subject of this thread, which is why I may have been easily misconstrued. My apologies for that - I went to a more generalized thought process instead of staying focused on the one topic.
This Fandom evolves from time to time but if it evolved dramatically to Sexually content, then it be shameful to be a brony or be called a brony.
Whenever I see the word R34, I think of a certain tumblr that has the word Braeburn in it + 2 extra letters.
Sadly, the furry fandom is heavily associated with rule 34. People overlook the great SFW art and pretty much denounce the amount of creativity that exists within that community beside it. Unfortunately, this fandom often gets the same dislike with the same misunderstanding/oversight. I hope people come to their senses and see the bigger picture. Rule 34 doesn't define something; it's simply an extension for creative outlets. Look at violent art. Same concept. :\
As someone who (Was) part of the Furry fandom, I distanced myself from the R34 section. It quite particularly disgusted me that people only saw this specific part of the actual fandom while the actual part (And the R34 Section of Furries only applies to MAYBE 10-20% of it.) is quite awesome.
Hehe. I remember when you and I had a serious discussion about this on Skype and that's the conclusion we arrived at. Well played, SunBurn. Well played. Why thank you very much! I truly appreciate that! ^_^ Basically canon versus fanon. The two "realities" that exist; the former being the one created by those involved in the show, and the latter "reality" being created by the fans of the show. What I was referring to was how I keep those separate. For example, Pinkie Pie is my favorite pony. I enjoy seeing all kinds of artwork of her, both clean and R34. However, when I watch the TV show, I never ever look at her in a sexual way. I keep that separate. There have been times when I've seen her and thought she looked cute, but more in an innocent sort of way, not in the "I'd hit that" kind of way.
