Rarit E (Cont. from Community post)

I'm not going to take sides here, since both of these have valid points.

As a moderator, I find Rarit to be a bit too hasty in his decisions. He's like that hotshot detective or police officer in a movie who runs off and catches the bad guy, but ends up getting his partner hurt or killed in the process.

This is not unlike myself. I am the exact same way. And to an even bigger extreme sometimes.

Rarit's intentions on the other hand are not questionable in the slightest. He cares about the site and would do most things that are within reason to prevent it from turning into the next 4Chan.

Most of his decisions reflect the staff's outcome anyways. If a thread is locked by him, there is almost always a valid reason for it to be locked.

The only reason to fear a moderator is when you step out of line. Something a few of you have done more times than they should.

However, I would like to call into question the validity of his return.

Rarit has maintained that he said he wanted to be back before his week to reconsider was over; however, the actual message was saying that if things got better with the staff (internally) he would consider coming back. I do not understand how this would qualify as re-applying within that week.

I would like to put that to rest at least.

Rarit has his own problems, just as well as anyone on the forum does. Right now, I see no problem with Rarit being part of the team.

Like I said, though. Miggy, Dragon, and Testy do bring up some decent points. Words don't do much alone though. You need facts to have people listen to your complaints.

I'm all ears. If you'd like to discuss this in more detail, Skype is always open, as well as a PM on the forums. I'll do my best to investigate accordingly.

As a moderator, it's my job to make sure that I not only uphold the rules, but make sure that the people who are upholding the rules are doing it correctly and fairly. Even if that is a bit hypocritical coming from myself.

 

Woah woah woah, let's back up for a second here.

You have questions on the validity of his return?
You?
The person who hounded me on the idea and prodded at me for not acting on the idea sooner?

That's off topic though.



As for Rarit-E, I've already stated my reasons regarding his rehiring in the previous thread; he's been rehired primarily for reasons besides moderating specifically, however, the claims of 'god-modding' from whoever or wherever, that's something that can be worked on in time. As somebody in this thread mentioned, I believe Miggy, it's not so much the what but the how.
That's something that can fixed easily.

tl;dr- If it's a problem, it can be fixed. If not, then improvement happens nonetheless.

 

Of which I had already said prior that I was well aware that I wanted Rarit back. However, that does not prevent me from having concerns as to what the actual process to re-hire him was.

'Because he did a good job before.' is a seemingly valid excuse, however, there are people who have applied for the same position as Rarit, and yet they were not (to the best of my knowledge) even considered.

I am well aware of the irony. But facts are facts. You can't just turn a blind eye to something that is potentially unfair to other people.

I would like to know, as do a few others, why other people were not considered for the same position.

Rarit quit and did not apply /technically/ until after the 1 week grace period. That is my only concern. As I have said before, I am glad he is on the team.

So please do not act hostile.

 

I'm not acting hostile, simply pointing out hypocrisy.

As for the other members who want an explanation, I'll gladly do so.


When a staff member quits, he/she is given a week to reconsider their resignation and will be immediately reinstated. After that week is up, they have to reapply like everybody else. At the 6 day mark, Rarit-E came to me with his reconsideration and it was pushed to the side due to the lack of necessity of more staff members (Give or take a few details, I admittedly screwed up here regarding /informing/ him of this :I), so in place of an immediate rehiring, he was put to the top the list as the highest priority. His rehiring here was us finally dubbing his rehiring a necessity and acting on what we had previously set up.

 

I still think that he never truly reconsidered being hired. His wording did not say that. Putting him at the top of the list for a spot is a little unfair it seems. Didn't raritE himself say that others should be given a chance. I recalling seeing that somewhere. I had heard of 2 others that were supposed to get offered the spot an seeing as he was number 1 I doubt they got offered.


He sure showed true dedication when he quit before. I'm gonna say that annoys me the most. You'd figure that if you were dedicated you'd try to fix it from the inside and not walk away.

That's just my opinion and what's that worth anyway.

 

For clarity's sake, here's what i sent Zephyr in a private conversation on the 6th day after i left:







Anyway, Dragonbait was kind enough to give me at least somewhat of an explanation on my moderating methods, and i'm happy to do my best to change what's needed. If there's something about me you have to complain about, then please, by all means do it. But instead of just calling me out for being a bad moderator and calling me a demon of unholy proportions for no apparent reason, just tell me what i'm doing wrong so i can improve myself. How am i expected to change if i'm not told what to change?

All i keep hearing most of the time is "Oooh, bad moderator lol lol god mod lol!" (mild exaggeration)

If that's all you have to say about me, then i won't bother listening to you. However, if you can tell me what's wrong properly and with reason, i'll do my best to do something about it.

 

The words "I'm willing to rejoin" is not a 100% yes. That is a maybe.

Things like "can I rejoin" "I would like to rejoin" those are 100% yes.

I still think the other 2 should have been offered over you seeing as you walked away from the job. Maybe if it was personal stuff it would be different, but I recall it just being lack of staff activity. So you walk away instead of trying to fix it from the inside. Which I don't think is all that fair.

ALSO: was I right about you saying others deserve a shot? I feel like I'm pretty spot on about that.

 

The fact that he was rehired entirely without Mike's presence that day should automatically invalidate the decision, regardless.

Don't get me wrong. I like Rarit both as a person and a mod. But the way he came back was simply unfair to everyone else who should have had a shot at this.

 

It was either him or Poetic because I certainly recall some staff member saying the same thing.

 

Walking away from that issue was a mistake i made. Me leaving the staff in the first place was more of an exaggerated rage quit than a genuine desire to leave.

As i said, i reconsidered before those 7 days were over, and perhaps i didn't make that clear enough back then, but i did have intentions of being put back on staff shortly after i left.

I can't recall ever saying that myself, but if you can find the post in which i said that, feel free to prove me wrong.

Don't get me wrong. I like Fluttershy both as a person and a mod. But the way he came back was simply unfair to everyone else who should have had a shot at this.

I'm just saying, if me coming back on staff the way i did is such an issue to everyone, then why isn't Fluttershy getting the same reactions? Why only me?

Don't get me wrong. I don't want you to justify Fluttershy returning, and i don't wanna talk about that either. It's more than justified in my opinion. I just wanna know why i'm being treated so differently in an exact same situation.

 

That's just it, you didn't reconsider. You gave a maybe answer. That answer wa in no way 100%

If I could find this post I wouldn't be saying this. I'd have posted it by now. I'm still pretty sure it was you.

I don't agree with the way fluttershy came back either. In fact his doing the ghost thing, ja. Haven't seen him in awhile.

But you raise a good point. I wonder why people are upset with your return and not his. It's real strange huh.

 

I'm moreso upset with Rarit's way of return because:

1. Fluttershy didn't storm out of the staff in a highly aggressive manner.

2. The administrators approved of Fluttershy being added back, as he had actually applied in private. (If my information is accurate.)

3. Nobody had really at the time applied for a position that they felt was adequate.

Those are the three critical things that separate Fluttershy from this case.

 

Fair enough.

Same as my case. Aside from the skype message i posted earlier, I sent Zephyr a PM shortly before he re-added me. He can confirm i re-applied, and he understands my reasons for doing so. I wouldn't be back on staff otherwise.

Come to think of it, i re-applied for the job publicly as well.

Who applied for a moderator job between Fluttershy's return and mine? Eight Star was the only one, and unless my eyes deceive me, he's now a moderator as well.

 

A mod of the RP section. That's not even a real mod.

I was thinking, remember that thread with all the people that applied. You know the one I'm sure. Since raritE was hired and eight star got hired and I was told that dilly was considered for the spot. So I am to believe the words Ramza said, all of us but those 3 are deemed unworthy to be a mod of this forum.

 

From what I was told, there were a few candidates for staff, of which mentioned to me were Eight Star and Dilly Star.

This isn't about applying or not. This is about the fact that you got selected and put on top rather unfairly.

In the end, it's up to the administrators. Zephyr made the decision without his counterpart to confirm or deny the decision. So we will only have to wait and see from this point onwards.

 

You mean to tell me zephyr hired raritE without talking to mike. So there was a lack of staff communication again. Well, that doesn't surprise me, but even better. This issue could resolve its self, the staff isn't working right again which caused a departure last time.

 

All admins agreed to the decisions made regardless of being there at the time of the decision. That's all that matters. If i was told correctly, Zephyr wasn't present either when Mike and Berry decided to take Fluttershy back. So again, no different than my case.

 

Mutually agreed upon among all of us a day or more before, yes, I was just the one who actually told him.

 

Okay I have a pretty simple solution. All the mods in question will compete in a little contest. Winner stays.

Round 1) underwear modeling

Round 2) mud wrestling

Round 3) dance off

I'll need three judges.