[size=-2]First off, this isn't a place for complaining about the Sonic fanbase kthnx.[/size] Yeah, I like the series. XD I know that's probably "social suicide" to say these days (on the internet at least), but I don't really care all that much. I thought I would start this topic in case I'm not the only FiM fan here who happens to be a Sonic fan. Spoiler: My opinion on Sonic Generations, which is a bit tl;dr. [size=+2]THE FUN[/size] and hedgehog [size=+2]HAS BEEN DOUBLED!![/size] Yesterday, I went to the local movie/game rental place and played Sonic Generations on their 360 for about 2 hours. 2 whole hours of awesomeness and nostalgia. If I had enough money I would have paid for a third hour! Heck, if I had a 360 I would have rented it--heck, I'd buy it. Both Classic and Modern gameplays are fun. Classic's physics aren't exactly as they were in the first games of the series, but I personally didn't really mind. The Spin Dash is overpowered, but to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if they had wanted to make it that powerful in the classic games but didn't have the technology or something. Not to mention, Green Hill is the only stage in Generations where Spin Dashing constantly is a good idea. You have to be smarter about using it in later stages. The jumping felt a bit odd to me--Classic Sonic is harder to maneuver in the air than Modern, in my opinion. He doesn't really keep his momentum when jumping, or in the air at all really. That's my only real complaint about Classic's gameplay. When I got the speed shoes power-up in certain stages, I expected to be able to pretty much FLY through the stage. In the classic games, whenever you got speed shoes and ran, even going right off an edge would keep you going at the same speed. Being in the air at all seems to slow Classic (and Modern) down. Disappointing, but not so much that it ruined the game for me. I wasn't exceptionally good at the game. I managed to get through most of the stages without dying, but whenever I DID die, it was completely my fault for being an idiot. XD For example, in Sky Sanctuary (modern) there's a part at least halfway through the stage where you're hanging onto a pulley. You can jump from that to another one, which I'm pretty sure takes you to a shortcut. I died three times trying to reach it because I never jumped at the right moment! You ever play a game and you try to do something and fail, and the second time through, you instinctively attempt to do the exact same thing you did the first time using the EXACT same method and timing?...That only happens to me, huh? ;_; In my defense, I was rushing through it since I only had an hour or two to play--I even skipped cutscenes since I can always watch them online--so there was no time for practice. I was used to Sonic's gameplay in Colours, so the only things that threw me off was some of the homing-attack physics (not sure why, it just seemed different somehow--but apparently it's the same as Unleashed HD, which I've never played, so...) and the fact the Air Boost has been downgraded significantly. Not that these were bad changes, but it did throw my off a little, I suppose. Bosses? They're, to be honest, very easy, but a lot of fun. Then again this series isn't really known for super-hard bosses or anything. Metal Sonic killed me a few times but was a fun battle, and the Death Egg Robot wasn't as easy as I thought it would be from watching a video of it online. It felt incredibly badass to fight Perfect Chaos with normal (Modern) Sonic instead of Super Sonic. Sadly I didn't get the time to fight Shadow, Silver, or any of the other bosses. Music, as always for a Sonic game, is awesome. I like that you can unlock music by completing the challenges, and then use that music on ANY stage or boss. Seriously, go on Youtube, there are some funny (and awesome) examples of using either incredibly fitting or hilariously NOT fitting music to certain stages or bosses. Seriously though, awesome remixes everywhere. I do prefer some of the Modern stage remixes, though. [video=youtube;v2_dhBvVKx0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_dhBvVKx0&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=108&feature=plpp_video[/video] [video=youtube;vzmZKGjXQ4s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzmZKGjXQ4s&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=109&feature=plpp_video[/video] [video=youtube;vogPYx8bcNQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vogPYx8bcNQ&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=110&feature=plpp_video[/video] [video=youtube;CvHAK0aw1uI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvHAK0aw1uI&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=117&feature=plpp_video[/video] [video=youtube;ptAPujlGcB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAPujlGcB0&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=118&feature=plpp_video[/video] [video=youtube;Ydvl3HDK3YY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvl3HDK3YY&list=PL46DE84EB38DB2B69&index=129&feature=plpp_video[/video] Bottom line, I really enjoyed playing Generations. I really wish I had gotten more time with it. Anyway, it'd be nice to chat with some people here about the series. Lately I've tried lurking some Sonic forums, but for the most part they all seem...not quite as welcoming as this place, to put it nicely.
I enjoy sonic fairly well. I haven't gotten a chance to play since Shadow the Hedgehog unfortunately. I really want to play generations but isn't only for the Wii?
It's for 360, PS3, and PC for the HD version. There's also a 3DS version which is completely different. First game I played (actually it was one of the first video games I ever played, alongside the Harry Potter ones) was Sonic 3 & Knuckles (a PC port actually, since I didn't have a Genesis D. I really sucked at it, though. XD I had NO IDEA the Spin Dash existed, so I had a really hard time with getting up slopes. First few times I played I could barely get past the first level. Once I was older and I knew what to do it was a lot more fun. Sonic 2...brings back memories of when I first got Sonic Mega Collection and played it. I found the special stages in that game were much harder than the blue spheres ones from S3&K. Seriously, it took me months to figure out how to do those half-tube special stage things. It's worth it to get Super Sonic without cheating.
I loved the older Sonic games. The one I had most fun with was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for the Game Cube. I played the crud out of that. The last good Sonic game I played was Sonic Heroes. The recent Sonic games kind of disappoint me. I want to get Sonic Generations, I've read a bunch of good things about it. Hopefully Sega is realizing their mistake and Sonic will return to the awesomeness it was! And no, Sonic Generations isn't just for Wii. It released on console and PC, but the PC version seems to have problems such as its really hard to control sonic with the keyboard, and the buttons shown in tutorials are xbox controls! So basically its just been ported to the PC with some side-effects. And I hated Shadow The Hedgehog. It was so bad in my opinion, look up gameplay/reviews on it to form your own opinion, but I hated it lol. He could have had an awesome game, but it failed miserably.
I'm probably showing my age here, but I played the heck out of Sonic 1,2, 3, and Knuckles on my Sega Genesis as a filly. ^^; I haven't been able to get into many of the more modern Sonic games (once it went all 3D and the gameplay style changed.) It's nice to see them reaching out to old school fans though, more, with games created in the classic style. I haven't heard much about Generations at all, so I'm interested to see opinions on it here. Thanks for you starting this thread! Also: I am going to have to check out those videos. Of all the OC Remixes on my iPod, a ridiculous amount of them are from the Sonic games. That music is just so wonderfully nostalgic for me. I love it.
I love almost every sonic game, though my favorite one is Sonic 3 & Knuckles because of Death Egg and stuff. Just got Generations, it was nice. The story lacked a bit of content but the game itself was cool.
Sonic Generations has 3D levels in it too, because young sonic meets his older, modern version. I'm not entirely sure how the game divvies up the levels as I don't have it. Reviews are kind of mixed. Alot of people were happy with the classic levels (obviously), but were disappointed with the choices Sega made for the modern levels. They seemed to have picked some of the worst of modern sonic... (Sonic Unleashed, Sonic The Hedgehog 2006). It seems like an interesting game, but the feelings were very mixed during the modern levels.
Yeah, they might have had more planned but...they probably just wanted to make the critics (and certain fans) who felt there was "too much story" in the previous games happy. It's too bad, there were so many missed opportunities for continuity nods and jokes and such. Yeah but Sonic Unleashed (the day stages anyway) was awesome, and the stage they chose from Sonic 06 is now actually playable because it's in an actually good game. Actually from the little time I payed, Crisis City in '06 was actually a good level...if only the game wasn't so screwed up it would have been so much more fun haha! Oh well, at least it was fun in Generations. Although it killed me a few times--being late in the game, it was pretty difficult. ._. EDIT: Also if there are really people complaining about choosing stages from later games...um...hello, it's an anniversary game celebrating ALL 20 YEARS. People being upset about seeing levels from later games in the series seem to be completely missing the point.
I agree, I really want this game. I never played Sonic '06 or Unleashed, so I can't really form an opinion on those games. But with that said, it won't deter me from getting Generations as it seems like a very fun game.
Hmmm...I do think the level choices could have been a bit better though. Most of the stages they chose were "city" levels. While it doesn't bother me that much, nor did it make the game any less enjoyable, it could have been cool to see different stages. Spoiler: Wall of text time! Basically rambling about what levels I (in a magical dreamland where for some reason I'm in charge of Sonic Team/SEGA) would have chose for Generations (the 360/PS3/PC version anyway) :P I love the game as it is, but the level choices were a bit disappointing. Green Hill Zone was pretty much necessary I suppose. Chemical Plant was a great choice, although Sonic 2 had stages like Casino Night Zone (I know there's Casino Zone DLC, but it's a pinball game rather than an actual stage--although, as someone who is a fan of pinball, the video I saw of it looks pretty fun!) and Oil Ocean, the latter of which is a very unique level compared to any stage in the series. Sky Sanctuary turned out alright (and is a lot more fun than the original!), but I've always had a soft spot for other Sonic 3 & Knuckles stages like Hydrocity, Lava Reef, Hidden Palace (which was more of a setting for a boss than an actual stage, but still)...heck, Flying Battery or Sandopolis could have been cool. Sonic Adventure's level was Speed Highway which, while probably one of my favourite stages from that game, pales in comparison to stages like Red Mountain or even Sky Deck. Red Mountain made a great lava/cavern stage (although Crisis City made a good fire/lava-themed stage, so if Red Mountain had been chosen, obviously a different Sonic 2006 stage would have been used). Sonic Adventure 2's level was City Escape, which was probably a GREAT choice, if only for extra nostalgia points. Plus it's a real fun level in both SA2 and Generations--a lot of people would have been disappointed if it hadn't appeared, and it represents SA2 perfectly IMO. Sonic Heroes' choice of Seaside Hill was...odd, considering it's that games "Green Hill" homage of sorts, but they used the water theme to make it feel a bit like a water stage and therefore unique from the Green Hill seen in Generations. I would have preferred one of the better level ideas from Heroes though, like the haunted mansion level or...um...*searches for a list of levels since he can barely remember that game* OH! Casino Park! An actual Casino level in this game would've been awesome, which is why I mentioned Casino Night from Sonic 2 earlier. ^^; Crisis City from Sonic 2006 was a good choice. The stage was alright in 06, it was just unlucky enough to be in a game that was obviously rushed. There were some other options from that game that could have made great stages--they could have had fun with Dusty Desert for a desert stage or White Acropolis for an ice themed stage. Kingdom Valley was I think the first stage they revealed for that game, making it notable I suppose, and is a unique castle-themed stage--a theme I don't believe appears in many other Sonic games. However, my ultimate choice from this game? I would have gone with Aquatic Base. Not only does it fit as a standard "Eggman base" level, but it could have been a water level (although in Sonic 2006 I don't think there were any underwater segments at all--but Generations does have some, even though they're all in 2D rather than 3D). Since this is the first of the last three stages, Aquatic Base having a "final stage" feel would have made it an awesome choice. Sonic Unleashed had some cool levels too. Rooftop Run was an alright choice, and was a nice "breather" after the difficult Rooftop Run. Cool Edge, like White Acropolis, could have been a snow/ice themed stage, and Arid Sands could have been a desert themed stage like Dusty Desert. Eggmanland/Crimson Carnival (even if it was notoriously hard) is also incredibly awesome, and would have been my first choice to continue the "last stage" theme I think the last three stages in Generations should have had. Sonic Colours is one of my favourite games in the entire series, and I think Planet Wisp was probably the best choice from that game. Asteroid Coaster is the only other one I can think of that would be cool in an anniversary game, but Planet Wisp is a great representation for Colours. It's also Eggman-themed to an extent, but with a "Green Hill" twist--Eggman is constructing a new base on a very beautiful alien world. Since the base isn't complete, there's tons of green fields everywhere, thus the Green Hill feel, but some parts of the base are somewhat completed. Also, in Generations there's a lot of buzz saws all over the place to get in your way and hurt you, which I think were only in the background in Sonic Colours. I also love all the boss choices (even if I think some of them, even the ones earlier in the game, should have been more difficult), although I think there could have been a few more. The Doomsday Zone boss from Sonic (3) & Knuckles would have been awesome. Metal Overlord from Sonic Heroes] getting some recognition as one of the cooler ideas from Sonic Heroes would have been nice, not to mention it would be an interesting parrallel between Classic and Modern Sonic--Classic Sonic facing off against Classic Metal Sonic and Modern Sonic facing off against the most recent Metal Sonic (at least in the main series--Metal Sonic's appeared in a lot of spin-offs since Heroes, but not in any main series titles). The biggest one is that I was hoping Knuckles would be a boss. He was once a rival just as much as Metal Sonic, Shadow, or Silver.
I agree with all your choices, except for the Casino level in Heroes. I FAIL at that level so bad :derpe: I die at least 20 times, and I rage when I miss the bingo pieces!!! But in in the end, I feel both relieved and accomplished for beating that level. I suppose that is the purpose.
I love Sonic but Mario is My Hero. I'd played Sonic back in the day and Sonic 2 & 3 Are my Personal Favorites. Sonic 3D Blast was another one i enjoyed too but got a bad rep for whatever reason. It;s not that bad of a game and then last game i really played with sonic in it was Sonic Adventures 2 Battle for the Gamecube and plus over 100 hours into the game and raising Chaos and Karate Fighting. Awesome Times. After that Sonic Heroes and then when i played the Xbox 360 on Sonic the Hedgehog i was disappointed and stopped playing his games. Might someday give his new game a try and see what i think of it.
The problem with that level (and pretty much all the levels in Heroes, as well as the Adventure games, 2006, the first Sonic Rush (haven't played the second one), and to a lesser extent Unleashed) was all the bottomless pits. Go too fast at one point and you'll probably die. Considering these games are supposed to be a fun combination of high speed gameplay and platforming, that's not good. Generations has bottomless pits but they're usually at parts that actually make sense instead of just being there randomly (except City Escape and Crisis City...bottomless pits make no sense in city levels ._.). Plus if you have the prompts/hints turned on--not Omochao--no need for that guy, seriously, but the thing that tells you what buttons to press at certain points, which is sorta' helpful--it tells you where bottomless pits are with a sign. Of course in some areas it's pretty obvious there's a bottomless pit there, but it's still helpful for when you aren't expecting it. The thing is, bottomless pits in Sonic games from Adventure onward always bothered me, but that stopped when they 1) used them less and 2) actually warned you where they are. XD IIRC, playing Generations I didn't die once because it was the game's fault; rather, it was me being an idiot. Like the fight with Metal Sonic--I kept Spindashing way too much and because of that I fell behind and died. D: I felt so stupid. I also expected to die fighting Perfect Chaos. Not a hard fight, but it's somewhat hard to tell where there are buildings to stand on and where there isn't (meaning you have to keep boosting or you're dead). Other than the level/boss choices and all the missed opportunities for nostalgia (think of all the references they could have made! plus they could have made fun of Sonic 2006--the new writers could have had a LOT of fun with that ), there were only two disappointments I had with Generations. First of all is pretty simple: the stages are fun, but they're fairly short. Wouldn't have minded either longer stages or maybe each Sonic having two or three Acts each stage. Would have been epic, as long as the same amount of effort was put into each Act, anyway. Second of all, I had an idea that I wasn't expecting to actually be in the game, but was more "wishful thinking" so-to-speak. Basically, the idea is that both Sonics would be able to fight each rival/boss. Spoiler: Seriously, Modern Sonic could have maybe fought a modernized Metal Sonic (and justify how present-day Metal Sonic is in Stardust Speedway using time-travel :3), not to mention have an epic battle with the Death Egg Robot. Classic Sonic fighting Shadow and Silver could have had potential as well. And imagine how badass it would have been to see little Classic fighting Perfect Chaos? The Egg Dragoon would have been interesting to fight as Classic. (I didn't get to the final boss of the game, though from what I've heard and seen online, it's a pretty disappointing battle...it's too bad, Colours' final boss was EPIC.) @Turk You might be startled by the gameplay if you haven't played Sonic Unleashed or Sonic Colours. Heck, I didn't play Unleashed HD version (the Wii/PS2 version, which I was unfortunately stuck with, was DEFINITELY the inferior version of the game), but I did play Colours, and I was still a bit thrown off. The movement seemed improved from what I expected, not to mention the jumping: I was a bit startled by the lack of double-jump, which Colours had, but I was glad to see the air-dash from the Adventure games return! You can't spam it for speed like you could in the Adventure games though XD Anyway, the gameplay style is a lot different. It seems more focused on speed, although Colours/Generations brought back a lot more platforming (see: jumping and stuff ). Boosting is a hit or a miss for most people--a lot of people miss just spindashing (which hasn't truly appeared in any of the 3D games since '06). I personally find moving at such speeds a lot of fun, not to mention it's nice to see Sonic moving that fast in gameplay and not just cutscenes. I'm not very good at boosting through an entire stage like most can once they have enough practice. See, here's an awesome speedrun of a standard Generations stage. I probably couldn't do anything half this good without a lot of practice. (Also that pulley stuff I mentioned in the first post of this thread? Looks like it's almost faster to NOT attempt that! :O) [video=youtube;0_dq27-aoH4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_dq27-aoH4[/video] ...I ramble more about video games than FiM or anything else television (unless you get me started on Doctor Who haha)
Sadly, no. I'm a 90s kid--well, I guess--born in 1994 --but I guess I was never really interested in video games growing up. My first gaming...anything, was my Playstation. Not PS2, the first one. :3 Spyro, Crash...ah, those were the days. Anyway, yeah, didn't grow up with a Genesis. When I was young we had a PC port of Sonic 3 + Sonic and Knuckles, don't think we have it anymore though...haven't seen it in years. Might be at my grandma's house or something, heh.
I was also born in '94, the first modern console I got at the time was an N64 in 1999, before that I was stuck with my Genesis, which I loved. :] After the N64 I got a Dreamcast... many memories were created.
Man, I should have expected a thread about a series that began in the 90s would start some nostalgia~ I recently played Sonic CD (Sonic Gems Collection, anyway)...I've played it before but for some reason didn't get into it. This time I did, and I got the good ending. It's a pretty fun game, although it feels "off" compared to Sonic 1/2/3/&K in some ways. Exploration is a bit more important, so the levels are designed so you can easily backtrack. Sure, it was possible to backtrack in most other Sonic games (with a few levels being obvious exceptions, such as the second level in Sonic 1), but due to the fact that one of the methods to getting the good ending requires finding certain capsules in each level (except the boss acts), exploration is pretty important. Apparently it's being released to be downloaded on Xbox Live/PSN, Steam, and iPod devices this December (possibly--release date hasn't been revealed I don't think). It sounds really interesting--both US and EU/JP soundtracks can be chosen, Tails is an extra playable character (heck, that'll make exploring a lot easier haha), possibly some other extras. I COULD get some monies and buy it on Steam...but I doubt this laptop could handle it. :'C Maybe I could "borrow" mom's desktop... EDIT: What really has me interested in this rerelease is that you can change the physics from CD to Sonic 2 physics. I'm interested in how different the game plays using a different physics engine.
