Stand up now! For Derpy!

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by DoomZealot, Feb 26, 2012.

?

Do you want Derpy(Ditzy Doo) to stay??!

  1. Yes, absolutely!

    36 vote(s)
    92.3%
  2. No, doesn't matter.

    3 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Bro hoofs Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    If it was then snails would have been removed too. He isn't. How is derpy disabled any way. Is it her eyes? Is this all this is about, bloody derped eyes?

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  2. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,135
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Resistance Tech Colt.
    Location:
    Painted World of Ariamis
    Totally agree!

    Actually i'm mentally Disabled (Asbergers)and that would be a great lesson because,when i was in school i would get picked on for being different.And i don't find Derpy offensive at all.I think she's funny.
     
  3. Ace_Sorou

    Ace_Sorou A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ask me.
    Location:
    Location:Location:
    But still, by denying a disabled pony's right to speak and be herself on screen, they're taking away the rights of the disabled.

    Let's say you're part of a race or religion that has a "representative" so to speak, in a children's TV show. You're people, just like everyone else, and you're glad to have that rep, because all the main characters are showing that your people can be befriended just like everyone else. Suddenly, the character isn't allowed to speak and has to change their appearance for something more "Normal" because a few idiots complained. Wouldn't you be offended? And how greatly?

    That's why I'm fighting for the change back.
     
  4. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,135
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Resistance Tech Colt.
    Location:
    Painted World of Ariamis
    Does ANYPONY care about what i think?
     
  5. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Bro hoofs Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    How is she disabled? Is the eyes? Isn't she just clumsy.

    That's what I see. I saw a pony that is just clumsy and has a good heart that wanted to help. Everyone else blows it up into a big scandel

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  6. Radaboy

    Radaboy Everypony's Resident Black Guy

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,407
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago, Fillynois//Cambridge, Minneighsota
    I'll agree with that, since I have ADHD and mild Asbergers (although this has never been a barrier in making friends), but my main point is, that many people are overreacting (although you my good brony friend are acting in a civilized and orderly manner ^.^)as if it is the end of Derpy as we know it.
     
  7. Ace_Sorou

    Ace_Sorou A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ask me.
    Location:
    Location:Location:
    She was born with eyes that are crossed. It's an actual medical condition, and it indeed does count her toward being "Disabled." Further, the reason she...derps...so much, is because she is aloof, a symptom shared by several forms of mental disabilities. Even if she isn't mentally disabled, she is physically disabled, and does represent the same disabilities seen in every day life.
     
    #27 Ace_Sorou, Feb 28, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2012
  8. Radaboy

    Radaboy Everypony's Resident Black Guy

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,407
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago, Fillynois//Cambridge, Minneighsota
    That's fanon, therefore your argument is invalid.
     
  9. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Bro hoofs Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson

    ^all of that.

    I've seen derpy get her eyes by hitting a wall. So rada's point is proven.


    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  10. Ace_Sorou

    Ace_Sorou A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ask me.
    Location:
    Location:Location:
    I don't believe that Derpy will be anything less than a Waldo background pony. However, I do believe that we shouldn't let this go so easily. If bleeding hearts can retroactively change such a sacred and beloved character, how many ponies are safe from being changed? What if they demand Rainbow Dash to be changed somehow because she looks so lesbian, or what if they demand Pinkie Pie tone down her partiness because the parents don't want to raise a party animal? These things are realistic problems based on actual events, and that is why I believe no true brony should take this change lightly.

    Maybe, maybe not, but I must point out something that might interest you.

    The eyes were far more derpy in the original print of The Last Roundup. It was one of the things that changed in the new edit. She was derping even without being injured.

    Now if she wasn't disabled to begin with, why would her eyes be twirling around without cause?

    And further, the old voice was deemed too "retarded" and "offensive" to be shown, as stated by the ones who complained.

    What does that tell you?
     
    #30 Ace_Sorou, Feb 28, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2012
  11. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,135
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Resistance Tech Colt.
    Location:
    Painted World of Ariamis

    If they demand Dashie to be changed.I will personally hang them by there own intestine.
     
  12. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Bro hoofs Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    So then derpy is just a happy go lucky, clumsy pony. The way I saw her before this whole mess started.

    She is still derpy, eyes or no eyes.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  13. Radaboy

    Radaboy Everypony's Resident Black Guy

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,407
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago, Fillynois//Cambridge, Minneighsota
    1. There are many reasons in fanon, one was a chemical explosion in science class during a sonic rainboom hitting a wall, all kinds of crazy things. I never said anything about that happening without reason, I just said that statement hasn't been backed up by the show so your argument was invalid.

    2. I honestly have no idea why they would think that voice was retarded, I never thought it was. There's a guy on dA who said his daughter is mentally retarded, and would be lucky to be able to speak half as well as Derpy, yet he doesn't find her offensive in the least bit.
     
  14. Echoax

    Echoax Greed Probably
    Wizard

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    20,506
    Bro hoofs Received:
    2
    Location:
    Kenithson
    Rada once again brings up all the right points.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
     
  15. Ace_Sorou

    Ace_Sorou A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ask me.
    Location:
    Location:Location:
    It doesn't matter if my argument was backed by the show or not. Many people still observe her to be mentally disabled. If that weren't true, these complaints against her wouldn't have been launched in the first place.

    Ergo, the argument is completely valid and legitimate.
     
  16. Radaboy

    Radaboy Everypony's Resident Black Guy

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,407
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicago, Fillynois//Cambridge, Minneighsota
    You're not listening, I was simply stating that you made a statement as if it was fact, yet it wasn't, that's all I was trying to say
     
  17. Ace_Sorou

    Ace_Sorou A Pony Every Pony Should Know

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    256
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Ask me.
    Location:
    Location:Location:
    Irrelevant. I completely understand what you're trying to say, but it doesn't make my argument any less valid.

    The way I described her is the way people view her. And people view her as a mentally disabled mare. Because of that, people were offended when she spoke, and complained that "a retarded pony speaking is very offensive."

    Now what's wrong with the above statement, aside from the fact that enough people made it for Hasbro to change Derpy?

    I'll tell you what's wrong with it; It's offensive to disabled people.

    That's why this isn't about Derpy being a gift to Bronies. This is about the Freedoms and Rights of disabled people.
     
    #37 Ace_Sorou, Feb 28, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2012
  18. Aynine

    Aynine Angel of Maledict Fortune

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,440
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    The issue with the situation is that, in actual definition, she is not offensive. As pointed out elsewhere, take a look at Snips & Snails. They're the epitome of "dumb." They speak with a slow drawl, are gullible, un(der)educated and raised far more hell in Ponyville than Derpy did as a result of their... intelligence. Censoring Derpy's 'original' persona is completely hypocritical on both the show and the accusers' part.

    No one's crying over the "dumb" characters that seem to plague every show these days. Unlike these other inept characters, Derpy's personality had been constructed by the fandom with good will. The irony is that inept canon characters are ok, but a fan service character with a similar characterization (created BY the fans) is not.

    Scooby Doo is absolutely painful for me to watch, but Derpy's antics are displayed in comical way that isn't exaggerated or fails to be funny at all. I'm all for her displaying genius-level intelligence, but I can't believe anyone can say she is offensive with a straight face.
     
  19. Sparkypony

    Sparkypony Antisocial ponyality disorder

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,135
    Bro hoofs Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Resistance Tech Colt.
    Location:
    Painted World of Ariamis
    90% Of kids cartoons are painful to watch these days.:sigh:
    I want the 90's cartoons back...
     
  20. Prince Darkmoon

    Prince Darkmoon Philosopher and Pony Lover

    Cutie Mark:
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2011
    Messages:
    884
    Bro hoofs Received:
    1
    Location:
    Sweden
    Dude, Lauren Faust would not allow them to touch Dashie, she is essentially a new version of Lauren's favorite childhood pony. Changing her in any way would be a great disrespect to the original creator of the show.

    The Derpy thing is bad, but I think we are over reacting, the original last roundup is still around and there will even be a DVD with the original. Let us show our support for Derpy by buying that DVD like crazy.

    By the way Sparky, I have asperger as well. I don't know why this is consiered a mental handicap, I have above avarage intelligence.
    :grin:
     

Share This Page