Religion has no place here, methinks. Religious tolerance thread, as mentioned by ePONY, thank ya very much, the end.
I feel that I should apologize. I did not intend for this to descend into a religious discussion; I was simply stating that my friends had a conversation on religion and brought sexuality into it, which always upsets me. I agree that religion should be kept out of the thread if possible, but if someone needs support about their sexuality and religion is an issue, then I feel discussion should be allowed, so long as religion does not become the dominant topic. This thread is about sexuality and support for your sexuality, not to debate if its moral or where it comes from or anything like that.
No one blames you for what you said, Merely the discussion spiraled out of hand Afterwards. And yes, That would be a proper clause.
We do debate morals, but within the confines of its own ideas and philosophy. Straying from that should be its own thread, so as not to muddle or conflict with the theme and intent of this thread.
Maybe that is the right way to go about things, Maybe it isn't. It's not the aim of this thread to debate such things though. This Thread should probably see some more light, So I thought I'd bring it back to the top. People shouldn't have to look hard to find it. And the help and support that it entails.
How about this for a discussion item: A few days ago, Alan Sues passed away. Now, while I suspect none (or very few) of you know who Alan Sues was, so I'll just say he was a comedian in the 60's, who portrayed a typically flamboyant gay person. Now, in real life he was gay, but could never come out due to the nature of Hollywood in those days. Now, my question is this: What do you think of the stereotypical flamboyant gay person? Does it hurt the movement? Help? Neutral? Personally, I'm not sure if it hurts or not. Of course, it's not such a focus now, although I suppose the shtick is still used in comedy movies. I know there are some people that act like that in real life, and it's not a big deal to me, but I often wonder if that's just the way they are, or if they think they should be that way because of what they've seen on tv and the movies. And, on a related subject, is there any character on television or in the movies that shows a positive gay person? For the life of me, I can't really think of any, but I don't watch that much TV, and don't get to see too many movies.
I don't think the media has Matured enough to at least halfheartedly Portray a non-straight character in a positive light. I can't say I've seen any, No.
My homophobic mother actually saw that. She was very impressed, and touched by the men's dilemma, but she was a bit more upset because they were betraying their wives, as well. I tried to explain some of the problems, but I don't think she bought it. Of course, it may help if I saw the movie, but probably not. *grumble* Had to explain a dirty joke to her once *grumble*
Stereotypical doesn't really exist, but I don't mind the flamboyant. Technically I adore them seeing as my boyfriend is kind of one of them, but eh. They're people being themselves. As for characters portrayed in a positive light, for me, Jack Harkness from Doctor Who and Torchwood immediately stands out to me as a great bisexual (technically omnisexual because aliens) character who is portrayed in a very positive light and acted by a gay actor. Jack Harkness from Doctor Who was a great character who was... well, close to gay (omnisexual), and is actually played by a gay actor. He's a brilliant character who I love and was played in a positive light, especially in his spin off series Torchwood
I think you are my new best friend. His character helped me mentally say " its ok to be this way." John Barrowman is a great actor and a great singer. Its one of those things where across the pond views things differently than America. Part of me wants to move over there for just that reason alone.
Some gays just act flamboyant (I refuse to call it acting gay, you can't act a sexual orientation) because that's who they are. Its their personality. Not for any reason.
It'd just like to point this out, It's an amazing read. It's a short story called: My flamboyant grandson The topic reminded me of it.
Umm. Considering I have no experience with this, I'll assume you do what you'd do with everything else in life. Take a chance and hope for the best.
I'm just saying that that's not why they're flamboyant. They are flamboyant just because. As to how we find out if someone is gay... Its really really obvious to other gays. Even if its hidden and to everyone else they appear/act straight, gays just... know. Its hard to explain. But even then, even if we are wrong, all you have to do is take a chance. Don't ask if they are gay or bisexual, just ask if they want to go out to you. Their response should make it pretty clear... its the same as asking a girl out that you aren't sure likes you or not. Seriously.
