The Gay Thread

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  1. Frost

    Frost Would You Kindly?

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    I went to college in the Bible Belt, what an unpleasant experience that was.
     
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    Most people I've met are gay / bi (I am as well), for me it's nothing unusual.
     
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    I've actually only come to know one gay guy in person, a scarcely similar number for bisexual men as well.

    Though I've met plenty of lesbians and bisexual women.


    Anybody else notice this sort oddity about male sexuality? It kind of seems as though female sexuality is rather encouraged to be explored, but male sexuality is given a slightly harsher treatment on the matter. I mean, I've heard some people I know from class talking about how their boyfriends can't possibly be bi, that they're lying, while they happen to be bi themselves.

    I don't know, just a thought.
     
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    In certain circles, male sexuality is looked down upon as something creepy, regardless of orientation. I find that this issue is more prevalent where I come from than the shaming of female sexuality, but I guess it differs a lot.
    Some people have these strange ideas that female sexuality is empowering, whereas male sexuality is disgusting and putting women down.
    I do feel this is more of a sexism issue than a gay one.
     
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    Because a girl with a girl is seen as hot even by some of those uptight anti-gay people. But for whatever reason two man doing the same is gross, I don't get it.



    Maybe unrelated, but female pictures do better on blogs then males, I mean the drawings. More people just seem to like ladies more then man. Maybe it's just the way of the world.



    yep totally.

    My manager I worked with for 2 years. I had no freaking clue until some told me.
     
  6. Antidaeophobia

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    There is a social attitude in our civilization to view penetration as not just vulgar but also 'womanly'. The idea of of a male being penetrated like a woman makes him less of a man, less strong and non-masculine. He has been reduced from a higher status to that of a mere woman. At least that's what I've read in my sociology and psychology books about our ideas on homosexuality. Also, a form of abused used on prisoners of war was anal rape.
    Men aren't encourage to explore their homosexual tendencies because of these idiotic notions that they will be less masculine and also stemming from religious views that sex is wrong, and dirty and that homosexual tendencies are evil.
    Men who are homosexual have to fight these puritanical and patriarchal views all the time. Most men don't want to risk what others will think by exploring bisexuality and I've met several men who have had bisexual feelings but most either stick with one gender or the other.
    I've had my fair share of issues though with people knowing I'm bisexual and either assuming I'm a *****. The most frequent thing I experience is men assuming I'll participate in a three some and suddenly treating me with disrespect when they find out I'm bisexual.

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    I've heard some evolutionary biologist say that it has an important factor in population control. Such as in human groups. Gay members of groups would be able to contribute to the group, help raise children, develop close loving relationships with other gay people and would be helpful in protecting the group just like any other member, but they wouldn't produce more children that couldn't be supported with limited resources. I find it an interesting hypothesis. I view that sexuality in many social animals including ourselves stems from our need to bond and create ties with one another and this can be done through pleasurable acts. Male bonobos that have sex with one another are more likely to work together better, fight less and be less stressed. Dolphins will not only have sex with members of the same sex, but they will also have sex with other species of animals including whales and turtles. They will develop close and lasting bonds with these creatures. Many types of birds (like penguins and swans) that form long term or lifetime bonds will often mate with members of the same sex.
     
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    So you should watch this

    [video=youtube;3ROXTFfkcfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3ROXTFfkcfo#!p[/video]
     
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    That brought back some very painful memories...Oh god.
     
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    It made me get incredibly emotional.
    putting it lightly.
     
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    It's okay guys. Here is Sir Ian McKellen at pride:

    [​IMG]

    Look at the McKellen. Forget all the bad.
     
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    It very well portrays the absurdity of gay discrimination.
     
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    Well, I'm bi, but I find sexuality a very silly thing to be proud of in general. I find the rainbow waving and parades to be kind of obnoxious, actually. I don't care if people hate gays. It's only when they try to manipulate the political system or engage in violence to enforce their beliefs that I have a problem.
     
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    Well, I certainly couldn't put it in words how I felt, so I'll use yours.:twi:
     
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    IF tempest is allowed too then I'll just mooch of of this opinion too
     
  16. Zephyr Wind

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    Opinion leeches, the both of ye!

    But yeah, Melancholy has the right of it. People are free to hate gays and all that, and I'm free to consider them all whackos. I don't think the parades are necessarily a bad thing though....not that I'd ever be in one or anything. >.>
     
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    Well, you really do have to understand why it is that those parades are a big deal. There was a time when people were to afraid of retaliation from both church and state to parade around, or even to tell people that they were gay. It was a pretty big deal (only because the people discriminating made it so, but there you go). It still is a pretty big deal here in the United States. It wasn't too long ago (and this still happens today) that bigoted people would constantly try to manipulate the political system to discriminate against gays. The parades are likely going to stop once those gay people think they have more equal rights. There won't be any point to parading once that happens. But right now, that's not the case.
     
  18. GreatandPowerfulTrixie

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    Something which I find somewhat interesting about homophobic slang, is that a lot of people now say these words without any real homophobic intention. It's something that has fascinated me because you could never get away with a claim of not being racist if you called someone the N word, and yet it seems to be a fairly normal part of society by this point to refer to someone by homophobic slang without it being taken as legitimately homophobic. This seems to be an anomaly among offensive words because any other would result in it being taken in an offensive way, but particularly among youths, the definition is completely lost to them. I don't know if this is the case everywhere, but it certainly is where I live.
     
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    I've encountered this as well. It bothers me when my conversation with one of the ignoramuses runs as follows:


    Girl: "That shirt is so gay!"
    Me: "No, it's not. The shirt can't be happy or have a sexuality."
    Girl: "No, I mean it's literally gay."
    Me: "What kind of difference does that make?"


    People should really avoid using words they don't understand.
     
  20. BryGuy Shinigami

    BryGuy Shinigami SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 4 THE WIN!!!!

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    @Echoax: I've read the Morgan Freeman tweet in his voice. That makes anti-homophobia even MORE epic.

    When I count my true friends, I have more LGBT-based friends than heterosexual. It seems that 2 out of 3 of my friends are either gay, lesbian, bisexual/pansexual, or transgender/transsexual. I am glad there is more awareness of LGBT and the acceptance is growing. As usual, first Massachusetts and the NE states will accept it (now that all 6 NE states + NY has legalized it, and in NJ, it's being decided), then the west coast (legal in Washington State), then the more prog-states of the Rocky Mountain and Midwest (Iowa is legal, Illy and Colorado is deciding), then last, the "bible belt" south will comply (sadly, Oklahoma might be the last state to legalize it if it isn't decided on a federal issue). But just like inter-racial marriage, and other (formerly controversial) issues, it will be a norm. I remember seeing a comic of a black man and a white woman married and they told each other, "remember when our marriage was illegal, glad those days are over" (the year of the comic was 2012, so they set the convo to 2012), and they had a picture on the shelve of a white man proposing to a black woman. Then it made the second part futuristic and said 2040, and had two men married saying, "remember when our marriage wasn't legal, glad those days are over" and had a hologram picture of a woman proposing to another woman.

    Things change and sometime in the future, seeing open gays will just be a day in the life of any place (even rural Oklahoma).
     

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